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@Nyoei @freemo @Katobell @Demo318
I imagine it was about the same as I was selling womens clothes in a little local goth shop.
Funny looks, hushed wispers. Of course the analogy isn't exact but it annoys me that it's still a thing.
Thanks for your input!

@Katobell That sounds like a very self-defeating explanation for your intelligence (as im sure you realize). What do you feel, exactly, in society has personally pushed you to respond/think that way rather than to praise your ow achievements? @commandelicious @Demo318

@commandelicious @freemo @Katobell @Demo318 About women in science and engineering? I wasn't exactly encouraged but I grew up in the 70's and 80's and it was a lot more sexist back then. We had a typing class in my school that I actively had to avoid 😖

I read about Leonardo Da Vinci when I was a kid and decided I wanted to be a renaissance man and learn about everything like he did. That is probably why I am the way I am. There was a lot of arguments in order for me to learn a few things along the way and I ended up growing pretty thick skin and working in a few all male teams so I could learn things too 🤔

I think things are a lot different nowadays. I hope they are in any case. I think they have changed how they teach things in England a LOT though. I was looking at the qualifications so I could tutor someone and I barely recognised them.

@Katobell @freemo @Demo318 My serious uhm, condolences doesn't really fit, I hope you know what I mean.

@commandelicious @freemo @Demo318 agreed. I even find myself excusing my knowledge - 'how do you know so much about that?' 'Oh, I grew up with two brothers'. Less effort than staring someone down!

@freemo @Katobell @Demo318
I think it's the same in nerd and gaming culture. Yeah, women and girls always have been there but if they said so they'd be ridiculed.

@Katobell Awesome, I will certainly check it out for ideas. Thanks for your valuable input!

@commandelicious @Demo318

@commandelicious @freemo @Demo318 yep, there were four of us across two classes in Nautical Science.

@Katobell I'm not convinced it is 100% societal, but I am not convinced it isnt either. I can see evidence in both directions.

With that said I would encourage anything that aims to reduce the societal influences at play there.

@commandelicious @Demo318

@Katobell @freemo @Demo318
I was on a technical gymnasium (highest form of school in Germany, not the sports kind).
We were 38 people in two classes. One of us was female. One. :/

@freemo @commandelicious @Demo318 It starts early, here in Scotland at least. Interest is about even between m/f early in primary school and gets more and more uneven as kids get older. Even those women who study STEM in uni don't often go into STEM jobs. Initial evenness means we can only assume it's societal influence rather than natural, which means we *can* change it.

@freemo @Demo318 Ok, I was just checking and it makes me terribly sad as well.
As for every other field it's helpful to have as many viewpoints and perspectives as possible.
What I am trying to say is: It's hurting the field.

@commandelicious While we have some wonderful female contributors they are sadly a minority. It is no surprise that a STEM instance would reflect the democgraphic in the world. With that said I would be the first to welcome a change where more Women go into STEM and have an interest in the topic. But sadly it just doesnt seem to be as appealing to women as it is for men and that makes me sad :( @Demo318

@freemo @Demo318 Please don't take this the wrong way but qoto is a mirror for the seeming lack of women in STEM or is it just my perception tricking me?

thank you for your support so far will share from many diff sources to share the word of gaming and tech

@freemo @Demo318
üöäßſ
We have more letters than you!

Ah, reminds me, need to make a thread about the ß and how it came to be (hint, it's two s. ſs )

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