David Ing @daviding@qoto.org
- Coevolving Innovations
- https://coevolving.com/blogs/
- Distractions, Reflections
- https://daviding.com/blog/
- David Ing. In brief
- https://ingbrief.wordpress.com
- Systems Community of Inquiry
- http://stream.syscoi.com
Systems change researcher resident in Toronto, Canada. Past president, International Society for the Systems Sciences. Author of Open Innovation Learning book. Research fellow, CSRP Institute. Alumnus of IBM after 28 years.
Joined Oct 2018
Refugees from birdsite missing QT Quote Tweet might reflect on conscious design decisions made in Mastodon core, that could be modified in a specific instance. This means that if a poster REALLY wants QT, he or she has the option to move to an instance where that is supported.
Original 2018 Design Decision at https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2018/07/cage-the-mastodon/#design-decisions
Pointer from discussion thread from 2000 on Quote Toots https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/12753
Just because birdsite declares a unitary design approach doesn't mean that Mastodon developers haven't thought about a feature.
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My latest post - The Phenomenology of Informationally Closed Beings
#Heidegger #Cybernetics
https://harishsnotebook.wordpress.com/2022/11/06/the-phenomenology-of-informationally-closed-beings/
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To this extent I'm really interested to know how the age breakdown of people on the #Fediverse. On one hand it would seem to make sense to me that most people here remember the "old internet" before the centralization and they're here to rekindle that flame of independence. On the other hand the youths are generally pretty up on this whole technology thing. I grew up on the internet and since then smartphones have become even more ubiquitous.
(Please boost for reach)
‘leverage points’ .... should be read as part of #DonellaMeadows' transition to a post-mechanistic view of the world ... : http://donellameadows.org/dancing-with-systems/
"What does ‘the power to transcend paradigms’ mean?" @antlerboy https://antlerboy.medium.com/what-does-the-power-to-transcend-paradigms-mean-306be913ff2a
Responses at https://www.linkedin.com/posts/antlerboy_what-does-the-power-to-transcend-paradigms-activity-6997453125057949696-XjXv
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From twitter
RT @daviding@twitter.com
Book ahead for Nov. 14 on "Finding Leverage: Toward a modern theory of leverage in #SystemicDesign" with @ryanjamurphy@twitter.com extending his presentation from @RSDSymposium@twitter.com . #SystemsThinking Ontario
https://wiki.st-on.org/2022-11-14 .
Building from #DonellaMeadows
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More from Jaron Lanier
“Modern techies have revived a technocratic sensibility: a belief that great engineers can and should guide society. Whether that idea appeals or not, when technology degrades the minds of those same engineers, then the result can only be dysfunction.”
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[Nicholas] Carr argues “As our window onto the world, & onto ourselves, a popular medium molds what we see & how we see it—eventually, if we use it enough, it changes who we are, as individuals” & collectively as a society.
“The effects of technology do not occur at the level of opinions or concepts,” wrote McLuhan. Rather they “alter patterns of perception steadily & without any resistance.”
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“By exploring knowledge brokering as navigation of different knowledge production regimes – traditionally academic and policy-oriented – the paper contributes to the existing debates by providing insights into the nature of navigating science-policy interactions as a process of epistemological bricolage, requiring an assemblage of different meanings, values & practices “ @JustinaBandola ➡️ Minerva
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11024-022-09478-5
I think that both epistemic bubbles and epistemic bunkers on social media are more a function of the self selection of whom to follow, rather than the underlying technology, @SFuntowicz .
We might compare to traditional newspapers. A regular reader is shaped by the columnists he or she reads day to day.
The federated architecture of Mastodon allows for more interest-based groups, but in practice, I find it's not the local timeline that makes the difference. It's the moderators of that instance who allow or disallow, much as there are choices about who gets published in 'letters to the editor". Boosts to a post are by followers, not by moderators, though.
Epistemic bubbles compared with epistemic bunkers by #KatherineFurman.
> In epistemic bubbles we exclude information simply as part of the normal ways we live our lives – we watch certain shows, we read certain newspapers, we speak to certain friends – and so we miss out on things just because we don’t come into contact with them. But, when we encounter new information, we still believe it. [....]
> The idea of epistemic bunkers stems from ideas in development studies on bunkerisation. In this context, it describes the creation of literal fortified and often militarized compounds for international aid workers to live in while working in hostile environments, such as war zones. They are intended to provide safety from attack, kidnapping, disease, and other ills. But they come with an epistemic cost. Bunkerised aid workers do not have much contact with local communities, making them less able to understand the context. This can be crippling to intervention efforts.
Via @SFuntowicz
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Reporting progress. I have @Mastodon up & running in android, ipad & PC, apps & Web. Interoperability works well 👍
@mstdn.social seems faster than the previous server 😀
My remaining concern is unintentional 'epistemic bunkering'
Please qoto.org to #ScienceMastodon, @josephguhlin . Thanks.
Birdsite refugees may have to learn protocols of symmetric follow of friends, or else they may get muted in Mastodon.
In 2008, the contrast with asymmetric follow was surfaced. #BenjaminEllis wrote:
> Asymmetric follow is a hack in social software to enable ‘relationships’ to scale. It is broadcast, not conversation”
@timoreilly responded:
> Not so. I follow 400; am followed by 16,000. But I respond to lots of people (like you) who I didn’t know before. Not just broadcast.”
"Asymmetrical Follow: A Core Web 2.0 Pattern" | James Governor | Dec. 8, 2008 at https://redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/12/05/assymetrical-follow-a-core-web-20-pattern/
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Switching to Mastodon, and looking to see who is here!
In a larger system of ideas, #DonellaMeadows reposted an article from #WholeEarth Review 2001.
> We can’t control systems or figure them out. But we can dance with them!
https://donellameadows.org/archives/dancing-with-systems/
Via @RuthMalan on #SystemsThinking
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Donella Meadows, in Dancing with Systems:
2. Listen to the wisdom of the system.
"Aid and encourage the forces and structures that help the system run itself. Don’t be an unthinking intervener and destroy the system’s own self-maintenance capacities. Before you charge in to make things better, pay attention to the value of what’s already there"
https://twitter.com/ruthmalan/status/1588549189524676609?s=20&t=frxWWdkt-Bpd15gOpuKDyAthere.
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🙏 all those who are following my mastodon account. I need to learn more about the platform’s potential & interoperability before being able to use it effectively.
I’ll continue posting (as usual) in Twitter until it becomes a liability.
For fans of #PostNormalScience, @SFuntowicz is trying out a home on SDF, https://sdf.org/?tutorials/social_network .
> To the users of the SDF Public Access UNIX System, 'SDF Social' is based on the concepts and principles of the early Social Networks that we have always been a part of and not the highly commercialized, for-profit and ethically questionable Social Networks of the late 1990s and 2000s.
> Simply put, SDF has always been about Collaboration, Non-Commercialism, Choice and Privacy.
Interesting choice for a proponent of #PhilosophyOfScience !
Introduction to #OperationsResearch by #WestChurchman #RussellAckoff #LeonardArnoff was published 1957. https://archive.org/details/introductiontoo00chur/page/n7/mode/2up
Then in proposing #SystemsThinking, look forward by 22 years, in a presentation and paper to the Operations Research Society.
Ackoff, Russell L. 1979. “The Future of Operational Research Is Past.” _Journal of the Operational Research Society_ 30 (2): 93–104. https://doi.org/10.1057/jors.1979.22.
(Thanks for pointing out the archived source,
@cyetain ).
Manuka honey is for healing, not just for eating, @josh .
https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/manuka-honey-medicinal-uses
- Coevolving Innovations
- https://coevolving.com/blogs/
- Distractions, Reflections
- https://daviding.com/blog/
- David Ing. In brief
- https://ingbrief.wordpress.com
- Systems Community of Inquiry
- http://stream.syscoi.com
Systems change researcher resident in Toronto, Canada. Past president, International Society for the Systems Sciences. Author of Open Innovation Learning book. Research fellow, CSRP Institute. Alumnus of IBM after 28 years.
Joined Oct 2018
