@freemo @design_RG @realcaseyrollins someone is currently working on it!

@freemo @realcaseyrollins@mstdn.social @moonman That would be interesting. 😃

But it would fork the database - at a certain moment in time; new posts staying in each platform, not added to the other, unless more magic was added.

@design_RG

Yes but tahts fine for testing.. the pleorma instance would be "beta", as in people would know it would be wiped or lost later if abandoned. but would allow the user base to test it and see if they prefer it.

If both instances are kept people can decide which to migrate to at the fork point.

@realcaseyrollins@mstdn.social @moonman

@design_RG

True, but on large professional instances mastodon will be more performant.

You have to keep in mind as is often the case with servers minimal resources tends to mean you loose things necessary to load balance multiple instances (such as redis)

I haven't actually tested it but my guess is pleroma would struggle to handle massive instances like M.S, or even extremely heavy loads from non-users, but excel when dealing with very small user bases that dont get a lot of attention.

You need a lot of extra resources to have the proper elements in place for elastic scaling.

@realcaseyrollins@mstdn.social @moonman

@freemo @realcaseyrollins@mstdn.social @moonman

The status was here : https://mastodon.echoz.io/@chris/104164500877416282

And indeed the huge instances like m.s. are way apart in their operation conditions than the smaller and medium ones.

Eugen wants it to become an alternative to corp social networks, so that makes sense. Imagine the complexity with millions of users daily.

@design_RG

Hardware is cheap, an extra cost at lower user levels for a reduced cost at high user levels seems reasonable to me. Its only at higher user levels the costs become relevant for me.

@realcaseyrollins@mstdn.social @moonman

@design_RG @realcaseyrollins @freemo @moonman I too would rather use an older PC box

@benis @realcaseyrollins@mstdn.social @freemo @moonman Interesting, I just visited yor front door. 😃

https://benis.freemyip.com/main/public

I would think an older machine or laptop is less grief too.

@design_RG @realcaseyrollins @freemo @moonman it's mainly because I'm getting an assload of DB errors and I suspect it's because of slow storage.

@benis

someday I should try and get it running, got some spare older laptops which would work well. Just should start with the linux part first, then progress to Pleroma after.

@realcaseyrollins@mstdn.social @freemo @moonman

@design_RG

If you need help let me know. I could probably set that up in no time since I know my way around linux pretty well and web servers in general.

@benis @realcaseyrollins@mstdn.social @moonman

@freemo

Thank you! For you it would be easy, yes, as you already are comfortable in both the OS and with similar software, mastodon.

Might be a good chance to see how real the comments I heard about the Pleroma installation guides being friendly are. I have spare hardware, an empty new SSD, and it's just a question of deciding to jump into this for fun some week.

But it would start with a linux learning curve, the underlining foundation to Pleroma. WE will see - I have been thinking of starting some writing again, that would be nice.

@benis @realcaseyrollins@mstdn.social @moonman

@design_RG

Learning linux int he computer world is a must.. I highly recommend the exercise.

@benis @realcaseyrollins@mstdn.social @moonman

@freemo

I downloaded and installed it various times. First time as an all nighter, dial-up session, for the 1.44 MB disk images. 😃

Later CDs, what a difference. Bought my son Mandrake 7 boxed as a gift, and he loved it, works on linux everyday, he's Comp Sci grad. Good choice of gift, I will say. 😉

But I always feel unproductive, noobyish and missing all the tools I have on hand in Windows, so it soon gets dropped. Would need a spare system just for learning and leaving my work machine intact.

@benis @realcaseyrollins@mstdn.social @moonman

@design_RG

This christmas I'm getting anyone who ever bought me socks for christmas a Linux installation CD :)

@benis @realcaseyrollins@mstdn.social @moonman

@freemo

Those days the images require a DVD disc, no?

Which version would you suggest? (not Arch Linux, please)

@benis @realcaseyrollins@mstdn.social @moonman

@design_RG @freemo @realcaseyrollins @moonman devuan is closer to what you know since it's systemd-free

@design_RG @freemo @realcaseyrollins @moonman if you don't know the GNU coreutils at least passably I'd postpone setting up a website until you do

@benis

Agreed if we are talking about a production website.

But if he sets it up knowing its going to be a shit show until he learns, and likely will loose some data along the way, then hey, let the guy play with a website :)

@realcaseyrollins@mstdn.social @design_RG @moonman

@freemo @realcaseyrollins @design_RG @moonman he should at least know how to use cp

@benis

I should mention having been an Irix user a looong time ago. 😛

And loving it, as a user only, we never touched the boxen.

My blog page tells some more : https://write.tedomum.net/rgx/joining-the-internet-in-the-mid-90s

@realcaseyrollins@mstdn.social @freemo @moonman

@design_RG @realcaseyrollins @freemo @moonman that's alright then