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@reidrac@social.sdf.org I agree, let's have fun while it lasts. Shit like this happened and will happen again.

Let's focus on fun part and don't dunk on people who made it possible.

@reidrac@social.sdf.org @trinsec It was "subscribe with your reader", gradually (then all at once) replaced by follow/share "buttons" (trackers, actually).

I too use a reader now and it was helpful with staying away from Twitter. But lots of content ended up locked under spywalls. Old-school blogs are fine, but new services make feeds as an afterthought, if ever.

The XMPP situation is somewhat different, I think. The platforms leveraged their out of band notification channels to provide an illusion of real-time delivery on mobile devices. And then the network effects happened. XMPP made some extensions on the end. But it was too little, too late.

@devnull @ajft @aurynn They can pollute it with everything they want. It's not like the rest are going to support it simply because it was sanctioned by some hijacked committee.

And ActivityPub is already obsolete anyway. That would be like polluting OStatus.

The Fediverse is not forever, at least not in its current form. ActivityPub is but a waypoint before another protocol crops up and we will walk away again. Pack light and let them have the dusty husks of uncool.

And so I'm okay with @dansup and @Gargron signing whatever they want to sign and talking about whatever they want to talk in the valley of the shadow of greed.

@carnage4life It doesn't matter. It is technically unfeasible to merge 2b-user network into 10m-user network without melting their servers.

@nazgul @yassie_j @grrrr_shark Fully integrates as in "a few billions of facebook users can report stuff on Fediverse"? I somehow doubt this is viable.

Of course one can do one-way integration instead of being "fully" integrated. But then there would be zombie army of spam instances manipulating FB feeds from outside.

The setup just can't work however you'd put it.

@wilfredh Yeah... But the security story here is not good, to put it mildly.

And that's only the passive summarization task. But some people are already wanting their digital twins to perform stuff in public :blobcatfearful:

@reidrac@social.sdf.org depends on who's your target audience. Are they DOS box users, or are they dosbox users? :ablobthinking:

I've read multiple times that Reddit 1.0 was written in Lisp. I didn't realize the source is public.

It's amazing. You can read the whole thing in one sitting. Even an undergrad could. It's like the essence of a…Reddit.

We took a wrong turn w/ software.
github.com/reddit-archive/redd

> Total mass of 3,291 kg (GPUs only;

3 tons of low-grade computronium for lease: andromedacluster.com/

@reidrac@social.sdf.org "or" meaning "lightweight" nodes, like mobile/low power devices which come and go, and switch networks on a whim. The alternative is running something like a TOR relay or a torrent seedbox - always-ish connected, perhaps to unknown parties.

@reidrac@social.sdf.org The core idea is that you either connect to a storage swarm (Torrent-style) or to your friend store-and-forward nodes. This way you can have both anonymity and offline messaging.

@reidrac@social.sdf.org ticks many of the right boxes, but its tied with cold fusion with whoever comes first :blobsad:

secushare.org/comparison

We are OpenAI.

Lower your paywalls and surrender your content.

We will add your cultural and technological distinctiveness to our own.

Your societies will adapt to service us.

Regulation is futile.

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