Erik Haugen @ech@qoto.org

@collectedoverspread I'm not sure if it has an official name, other than like "missing the point".

It needs a bit more to be a good argument: it implies that a law won't do X amount of good; ok fine – the obvious thing you need to examine is how much good, <X, *will* it do, then? And weight that against the costs. So it's like just the first part of a coherent argument, at best.

@sully1503@mastodon.online Isn't this a reasonable thing to do? Why is this shameful?

@quercus24 Are you worried about perpetuating this sort of stereotype that conservatives are more likely to have their act together enough to do basic adulty things like get a free id, register, and mail in their ballots? IOW if conservatives (Tories? Whatever you call them over there) are actually doing this for this reason – will it work? It sounds... unlikely.

I mean, maybe your point remains that it is a pointless barrier to voting, and bad just for that reason, but does it really bias the results of elections?

Here's a study (US, but still) showing that yes, despite what old curmudgeons think of kids and hippies, progressives can actually manage to vote even in the face of such overwhelming odds: https://www.cato.org/blog/do-voter-id-laws-matter-much. (Link has an amusing anecdote about DeSantis' ballot getting thrown out.)

@AstraKernel support for floats is a separate library you have to explicitly link in because it is so huge. That is very thoughtful.

@apl_discussions or std::vector

@apl_discussions If you're wondering where the name for C++'s std::iota() comes from, now you know.

@dclr42 heh it's easier to do pretty much everything. 😂

@rdaily phenylephrine in particular, not all cold meds. #NotAllColdMeds

@quercus24 driving licenses I'm guessing cost a lot more than that if you also count the classes & training? 😂

Is there a free easy-to-get alternative? I know in some times & places it hasn't been, so that's a poll tax.

@freemo yeah the identity-lefty movement that's kind of picking up steam in the last decade or so does not tolerate dissent.

The thinking is roughly: everything anyone does is about identity oppression, so if you disagree with me about anything, you must therefore be an oppressor, i.e. a Nazi. Punch Nazis.

There is no room for nuance.

They have a huge presence on the main Mastodon instances.

I appreciate the enthusiasm, but it really makes it weird when you're debating something banal like minimum wage.

@ZhiZhu This strip sort of glosses over some important free speech issues. The idea of losing your job for something you say, for example, is a big deal; establishing norms around what justifies that kind of response, whether those responses do more harm than good, etc are important conversations.

@quercus24 Do any places in the UK or US that require IDs to vote make it particularly difficult, or not free, to get an ID?

@billstewart415 yes. It's changed, now, though, to be slightly less ridiculous.

@Pat the 24 ft guy – but how do we know he didn't get it from someone else, say, in the bathroom? Was it one of those silly pseudo "outdoor" tent things restaurants had, as if it was sheetrock that caused covid?

Anyway: sure, it's possible, I'm sure like a couple people got sick that way.

@Pat Yeah I think there isn't much doubt about that; you wear it right you're hugely protected. (Haven't healthcare workers been using these for years when doing flu swabs so when they get sneezed on by sick people they don't get sick?)

My question about your photo is, do you really need masks outside? I hear you can't really catch covid outdoors in normal situations.

I could see putting one on before I go inside a public space. But, for me, I feel like the risk is down to "background levels", time to move on. I'm not going to wear a mask for the rest of my life.

@grey qoto.org is both sides of the fediverse, I guess?