Erik Haugen @ech@qoto.org
Computer programmer
"From what we can tell, Haugen works at Google. So much for "Do no evil."" – Kent Anderson
Joined Mar 2023
@shanie @pluralistic Great point; as we're more and more able to do real harm to the ocean and its ecosystems, we more and more need some kind of solution to managing this "commons". Ostrom's research might have some insight there, but I'm not sure how making a big fuss about the term "tragedy of the commons" helps anything.
@GraniteGeek @pluralistic It's not really a fact, though, is it? I mean he might have invented the term itself in 1968, but the argument is far older.
It's maybe not a great term, anyway: the "commons" e.g. in England hundreds of years ago would have been regulated to prevent those kinds of problems anyway. 😂
I always thought of "tragedy of the commons" as a nice argument for environmental regulation. Doesn't Ostrom's work anyway mostly talk about how to make, you know, rules, for governing commons? Like, if you didn't have the rules/customs, it would lead to, you know, tragedy?
Doctorow has some amazing articles, and some... not so amazing articles. This is the latter category, to be sure. What's even the point? That some people he disagrees with on mainstream issues are also fringy nutjobs?
@forrestbrazeal I like your insight about the non-wikipedia nature of it; WP doesn't always get this right either, but I think SO needs a better answer for addressing high-ranked (first comer) wrong answers.
@quixote @axeln @GreenFire Implicit in your response is that you believe it's obvious that BN ought to be doing something materially different in order to "depose Hamas" or otherwise respond. I want to believe it, too. I just don't know what that other thing could be.
@GreenFire @quixote Well put. I bet a good chunk of the kids fighting at UCLA would agree with that poster, but then lumping together based on catchy bumper stickers blows it up.
@axeln @GreenFire @quixote I am guessing 95% of people in your country and mine desperately want that ASAP.
The point of disagreement seems to mostly be around what is acceptable for the IDF to do to make that happen. (answers seem to range from "immediately disband and leave the area" all the way to "keep doing what they're doing until Hamas is no more")
@sil If it is a partisan thing to help the Tories, then Tories are incompetent; that tactic doesn't seem to work very well.
Turns out non-Tories aren't especially more likely to be incompetents who like can't get ID or something.
@realcaseyrollins @hornblower @freemo https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/04/trump-israel-gaza-war-00150577 I think he's saying the right things: get this done quickly, move for peace deals, etc, etc.
@realcaseyrollins @hornblower @freemo Didn't military aid go slightly down with Trump, after going up a lot under Obama and then before going up a lot again with Biden?
@realcaseyrollins @hornblower @freemo maybe, but https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-09-29/ty-article/trump-wanted-to-condition-aid-to-israel-on-peace-deal-with-palestinians-new-book-claims/0000018a-ddf0-dfee-a9ee-dffce8790000 for whatever that's worth.
I like Trump's isolationism, but sometimes I worry if he's a bit *too* isolationist.
@ErikUden RWNJ here – what makes you think conservatives care if you call it X or Twitter?
@arno_in_sing @anneapplebaum They could do more, but don't see the need, because they have a policeman already. Even if you don't think they have the means: If they had the will, even, there'd be at least that 300b. They don't even do that. Appeasement.
Yeah, I think Poland gets it: better to support Ukraine now than place all existential hope in article 5. Money they send to Ukraine now is pennies on the dollar. The rest of Europe, not so much.
@freemo I don't get the desire to get this last word in before blocking.
@anneapplebaum Is it the "pro Russian" caucus or is it the "don't want to be the world's policemen" caucus? I mean why isn't Europe handling this – they easily could? (It's shocking that *we* have to coax them into commandeering the $300B!)
@thepoliticalcat @anderspuck @randahl maybe Trump's support for Johnson is giving him the cover he needs? https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4591214-trump-johnson-ouster-threat-greene/
@stadsplanering @randahl The Republican party recently has taken an isolationist turn. (Trump is just the most obvious archetype of this.)
There's a lot more talk about trade policy, immigration, etc; it's not just about avoiding foreign wars.
Like you might think that Ukraine's cause is totally righteous (I do), but maybe we shouldn't be paying for it? If they need help, maybe the countries that are more directly impacted by the threat should be the ones carrying the most of that burden: Poland has certainly stepped up, other European countries could as well. (As a practical matter, Europe could easily contain this threat.) A+
Another way to look at it is this: over the last decade or so, a lot of Americans don't want to be the world's policeman anymore. I think a lot of other countries probably don't want us to be either.
Don't don't confuse that with support of Putin. (I mean, obviously there are people who like Putin.)
Same with the Houthis in the Red Sea: Europe are the ones hurt by that, and they can easily deal with it. (Shipping companies could probably deal with it on their own, even!) US support for free trade and access to the sea has really generated a lot of wealth over the last 70 years, great, but who really wants a world where we are the ones enforcing that all the time? More and more, not us.
@randahl I thought Trump was giving Johnson support so he could do this without getting replaced.
@freemo But how about something that doesn't involve ethnically cleansing the victims.
Computer programmer
"From what we can tell, Haugen works at Google. So much for "Do no evil."" – Kent Anderson
Joined Mar 2023
