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@crazyeddie @edgeofeurope @UlrikNyman @randahl @NMBA I don't think that's the vibe here; I think the point is just Europe should step up and handle its own security/etc; they can do it easily if they just, you know, do it.

I disagree with Randahl on almost everything, but not this! In fact, like everyone agrees with this, I think – it's one of Trump's main foreign policy pushes, from what I can tell, even.

@malwaretech FWIW this is I think one of Trumps main foreign policy goals: the good guys in Europe can easily take care of their own security if they step up and do it.

@gwynnion Trump didn't close borders (except during Covid) remove all immigrants (or even more immigrants than Obama), tariff to the moon, create jobs only for men, force women to submit to men in any particular respect, etc in his first term, so it's odd to suspect he'll do any of those things in his second term if he gets one.

@JoshuaHolland I doubt someone clueless enough to not understand how tariffs hurt consumers is going to be moved by this argument.

But probably best to focus on his first term; unlike in 2016, we can actually see with some degree of confidence what he'll do if elected again. I think it's uncontroversial to say that from a trade perspective at least it wasn't /that/ bad?

@freemo @louis Louis, it's part of his charm. If typos bother you subscribe to someone else 😂

@freemo The Ayatollah is more than happy to pay this price, never forget that.

@hazz223 @hacks4pancakes well, his last term coincided with a brief pause in the world's descent into Iran/Russia madness, although I admit that could just be a coincidence.

@schrotthaufen @danirabbit @hacks4pancakes normally I'd agree with you, and this is a big part of why I didn't vote for him in 2016, but like in this case we have an entire term in office to look at: we really don't need to play this game of wondering what kind of president he'll be based on whatever inane babbling he does at rallies.

@EvilBunnyPottymouth I feel like a lot of this kind of thing is going to fall flat: he didn't really do this in his first term, did he? Why do people seem to think his second term would be so much different/worse than his first? You need pretty good evidence to make that claim, I think.

@mattjhodgkinson @Godfrey642 @flowerpot @FatherEnoch @bitbear doesn't this article make a compelling case that the target of the satire is something else?

@mike @llewelly not just any 10-eyed angel, it is specifically a Seraph, so this would be perfect.

@randahl @signaleleven I have no idea how much research Musk has done about rent control. For all I know his opinions are based merely on general awareness of problems associated with price controls.

My vague take on him is that he forms really strong opinions based on nontrivial-but-maybe-not-robust-enough research, but I don't know for sure, of course.

@randahl @signaleleven The states in the US with rent control have higher rates of homelessness, generally. I think maybe more analysis is required before you can call any of this "proof".

@benroyce What did Orbán say about Trump, that he's peace-loving?

Ironically, Harris gave Trump a hard time for praising Kim, but it seems pretty clear Trump did that for exactly the reasons you outline here, in hopes of manipulating him. She must know this, yes? weird.

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