@static

Thats harsh.I respect the meaning of the hijab for you and I think thats great. But it isnt fair to judge others for their choice not to wear it. That is their choice and they are no less deserving of love for their choice.

I have a close musslim friend I care for dearly. She has always refused to wear a hijab, she is getting married next year and certainly found her love.

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@static

Some jews do eat pigs, and they are still jews. Religion is different for everyone and in every region. While I respect that it may not be what you see as muslim, it is what SHE sees as muslim.

So for her it is real and that's what matters. People are free to interpret their religion how they feel is correct.

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@freemo @imurcultleader Religion is not subjective when it recognizes its texts as being sources of being objective truth. "New Age" and "postmodern" is deviant blasphemous ideology. No true Jew eats a pig, the entire point of religion is making sacrifices of personal liberty / autonomy to close the distance with GOD.

a Christian who does not recognize the Bible for instance is not a true Christian, merely Christian-influenced.

You are NOT A MUSLIM if you DO NOT RECOGNIZE THE QURAN AS BEING OBJECTIVE TRUTH ISSUED FROM GOD. There is no way around this. You are not an authority on the matter. Thiis is part of the definition of "being Muslim" / "practicing Islam."

It is okay for an individual to be heretical, that is a matter beween them and allah, but one must accept that one is practicing a deviant form of faith.
@freemo @imurcultleader Faith is not proven when it is easy to practice faith. Yes, faith is proven when a difficult circumstance is faced with courage. The expression of faith is even accepting an unwinnable circumstance. There is no godliness without righteous struggle. Indeed this is the meaning of JIHAD: righteous struggle. Looking through Torah, Bible, Quran again and again the story is never about compromising your religion for an easy life, but facing challenge (inside and outside) due to ones relationship with God, and holding true even in the face of adversity.

What if Abraham said, "you know God would never ask me to sacrifice my son," perhaps the whole world would have been lost.
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@static

Your philosophy on religious views is fine. But you do not get to tell others what faith is or is not, just as no one can tell you. That is for them to decide for themselves.

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@freemo @imurcultleader False. religion is not a matter of what feels good to you, it is a matter of what the texts say and what the authority of the religious community has to say. You are espousing blasphemy. Now whether or not you are religious, that is your choice, but what it means to be religious is NOT your choice.

@static

I never said its a matter of "what feels good" I said it is a matter of how you **interprit** it.

The same exact phrase can be interpreted in more than one way. There is no way to know absolutely which interpretation is correct, even if there is some objective underpinning.

Who would you be to say your interpretation of the text is the correct one and hers is the wrong one.

You have no right to speak for allah/god anymore than someone else does. Your interpretation has no authority over her interpretation.

This all assumes she is a muslim in the first place. I dont know her, maybe she doesnt practice the faith at all. Again her right either way and your comments attacker here were simply out of line.

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@freemo @imurcultleader Please go to your local mosque and ask them to discuss the meaning of Islam / what it is to be a Muslim, they will educate you if you are open to having your assumptions challenged and truly want to learn . Religion is by nature a social practice; instead of relying on the conclusions you reach as an individual non-practitioner, much better to consult a community of believers and practitioners of the faith. Have you ever been to a Mosque?

@static I have dont that already and discussed it with many people before. Many agree with my views some do not.

@static

There is a rather large community in the world of muslims who dont wear hijabs. So would seem that community you say is required is still present.

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@static

Seems her for one. I know of a community of atleast 40 or 50 in america, probably about a dozen here in the netherlands, and probably 100 or so in the middle east and borders. At least based on the people i personally know.

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@static

And yea ive been to a few mosques and have spent countless hours with many muslim friends discussing the faith. I think its a lovely faith when seen from the proper perspective.

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@static @imurcultleader @freemo what religion is without doubt is the biggest cancer ever to spread. It should be removed now that we have the knowledge not doing so will only continue to ruin us.

@LoliKing

Not sure I agree. Humans are the cancer, some just happen to use religion to spread that cancer, other use more secular means. In the end religion is not the cause so much as the tool used in a bad way.

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