Am I the only one who ever thinks about countering g-forces by allowing a pilot to be submersed in liquid instead with neutral boyancy. This would completely eliminate passing out from g-forces at any acceleration factor.

Though of course it would be complicated so I understand why it isnt done. You would need a complicated system to maintain pressure in the tank so it wont fluctuate quickly. But since g-forces are usually transient if done correctly decompression might not be a big issue

@freemo that's the idea behind the g-suit: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-suit

It directs fluid to bladders around the lower body to counteract the ρgh gradient the pilot's blood is subjected to, which means that pooling blood in the legs doesn't represent a low-energy state, which in turn means that blood has less tendency to leave the brain and impair function.

@khird yes, im aware.. but if the pilot were completely emersed in water then there would be absolutely no effect from g-forces in that fashion. Any increase in g-forces would present as if the person just was deeper under the water than they are (like a diver)... So at any g-force the the pilot would be immune from passing out (though you'd have to deal with the pressure changes now)

@freemo well, not exactly. Going deeper underwater changes the gauge pressure a diver observes, but not the hydrostatic pressure difference between his head and his toes (ΔP=ρgΔh). ρ and g are effectively constant no matter where the diver is, and Δh is just a function of his posture - his height, if he stands upright.

But for the pilot in a non-inertial reference frame, g is not constant. So when he manouevres, the ΔP changes substantially, while the diver will always see about 17.8kPa (182cm diver standing upright in freshwater) higher pressure at his toes than at his head if standing upright.

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I am aware of that. But when a pikot is neutrally boyant underwater he does not expiernces what a pilot outside of water expiernces. It woukd be indistingushable to a higher oressure on the liquid.

The imbalance you suggests is specifically due to being negatively boyant in air. The same way a centeifuge cant seperate out anything that is neutrally boyant either.

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