So apparently Joe Biden was pro-segregation in the 70's and said he wanted to keep black kids out of white schools because he didnt want his kids to grow up in a "Racial Jungle".

People are really going to support this lunatic?

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I do believe people can change their position and opinion on issues over time and normally I would forgive these kind of things in the past. Its when it comes to career politicians I become very skeptical when politicians like Hillary Clinton flipflop on issues. Like Biden I think that they just don't care and they are just pandering to their voters.

In regards to this quote specifically, and looking at the wider context I am inclined to say the wording is unfortunate. I did read articles recently that made the point that bussing kids around led to degraded school performance when kids from black neighborhoods were bussed to white schools. Probably with the best of intentions, but evidently with the worst long term outcome.

And in the meantime we have an actual racist in the white house..
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@Glowie We arent just talking about a quote here. His voting record reflects his anti-segregation stance by voting against and even creating bills that made segregation efforts (like busing) illegal.

His actions are as unfortunate as his words.

I'd say if we evaluate their actions Biden is every bit as racist as Trump, in fact, after this, I'd say more so.

@freemo I agree with you that his voting history doesn't paint a colorful picture of Biden. It is weird that MSM hasn't picked up on this like they did with other people their past transgressions.

In your eyes, is there a way Biden can redeem himself?

@Glowie Anyone can redeem themselves, Trump could too if he showed the right change of character.

the other question is, can he redeem himself in time to win my vote in this election. My answer there would be no, but if he wasnt so old he could redeem himself for future elections, potentially.

See the issue is anything he does to apologize for his past and correct his behaviors is great. But how am I to know it is sincere and not just to win an election?

To me a person needs to redeem themselves through actions, over a long period of time, before I accept that a change is genuine. If a decade ago he came out publicly about his past, apologized, strived to change it, knowing full well that coming out would hurt his electability, then I'd probably be supporting him right now. But chances are even if he does apologize it is likely only because he was called out on it in the first place and doing so will help him win an election.

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