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If we had a vaccine that was shown to be safe as many other vaccines are, then I'd be the first to say your an idiot if you dont get it.

With that said, forcing this or **any** vaccine as a matter of law, no fucking way. If I heard they were going to require vaccines by law I would refuse the vaccine out of spite at that point.

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@freemo States have lists of required vaccines that schoolkids are required to have. Almost everyone is okay with that (and every time there's an outbreak among schoolkids, "almost everyone" adds more people).

That said, if there is a vaccine is safe and effective against SARS-CoV-2, I expect the vast majority of people would not need laws and force, except to make them wait their turn.

@lnxw37a2 Well for starters your talking about something very different. Vaccines are required to attend public schools, yes. But they can also choose not to vaccine and move their kids to a private school. It is not a criminal situation. With that said the list of vaccine sis very short and is only the most deadly really, nothing at the level of COVID.

There are plenty of people that object to it being mandatory too.

@freemo @lnxw37a2 the fact that lots of people do something is rarely (if ever) sufficient to say doing that thing is a good idea.

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Everyy civilized country requires vaccines by law... It is 21 century!

@pthenq1 If they require them by law then they arent civilized. bodily autonomy should be a fundemental right in any country. I should have the right to decide what I put into my body and what I dont, no one else. Forced drugging of a population is barbaric from an ethical perspective.

@freemo Indeed, The problem is that it does not apply with pandemic related diseases.

That is because individual are not deciding their fate (on pandemics) but the society fate. And they have not right to do so.

@pthenq1 Except they are, you can quarintine yourself, you can wear masks, or you can just take the vaccine and protect yourself.

Moreover not everyone in a population needs to take a vaccine for it to be effective, herd immunity for most diseases are hit around 80% - 85% of the population so you only need a fraction of people to do it for everyone to benefit.

The USA has virtually eliminated polio and has completely eradicated small pox without any need of any kind to enforce vaccines by law, so we have more than enough evidence to show there is not need for such a law to begin with if your population is sufficiently educated.

@freemo Polio vaccine is mandatory by law in United States since 1955.

And #COVID19 vaccine must be mandatory too. They are pandemic diseases. Individuals have nothing to say about it.

@pthenq1 No that is straight up incorrect. We do however require a polio vaccine to enroll in public school, but thats very different. If you send your kid to private school there is no obligation to be vaccinated.

@pthenq1 Oh and also alls tates except 4 or 5 of them allow you to enroll in public school without vaccinations if you simply indicate a religious exemption. In other words if your reason for not vaccinating is religious in nature you are exempt from the need to be vaccinated when enrolling in public school.

For those enrolled in private school there is no need to be vaccinated at all, regardless of the reason.

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