Holy hell, the police killed **another** person and now they are rioting in philly... Have they tried not being murderers maybe?

@amerika He was having a bipolar episode and had called the hospital to have him taken to a mental institution at the time.

@freemo

OK, so first fact:

He's crazy.

Next, we have to realize that crazy people are dangerous. Their brains don't work right.

Then we have to ask: was he armed or acting in a threatening manner?

@amerika none of that was in question. No one is denying that he is "crazy" or even dangerous. The issue people have is that we pay these cops to deal with dangerous crazy people and we dont pay them to shoot them. the truth is there are crazy dangerous people in other countries all the time and more often than not the cops do their job and are able to (usually) subdue such people and they them the help they need. We expect the same from our cops. In fact many police in many nations dont even have guns to ensure that isnt even an option for them.

@freemo

That's nice, but in these areas, you need to be armed.

Try having a 1500 mile border with Mexico.

Even more, we DO pay these cops to shoot people who are threats to (1) cops (2) other people and (3) their own families.

There's not much you can do with crazy when it acts crazy and refuses to be arrested quietly.

@amerika I am pro-gun, I really dont care if people are armed.

You completely avoided the main point, in most countries a person like this would be subdued and in a mental hospital, more often than not they are not killed even if they are dangerous. In other countries cops actually put them selves at risk to save lives. Any other spin on this is rhetoric.

@freemo

Cops here put themselves at risk. They are dealing with highly violent, completely unpredictable people all day.

You know you can do ride-alongs, as a citizen?
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@amerika I've been on ride-alongs.

You are still missing the point, when cops deal with the same sort of incident as the one we are describing, same risks, in other countries the end result is rarely to execute the person. So pointing out the american cops take on some risk, which is true, isnt particularly relevant to the point that they appear to reduce their risk by killing people where by in other countries in the same situation they would not.

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