Holy hell, the police killed **another** person and now they are rioting in philly... Have they tried not being murderers maybe?

@amerika He was having a bipolar episode and had called the hospital to have him taken to a mental institution at the time.

@freemo

OK, so first fact:

He's crazy.

Next, we have to realize that crazy people are dangerous. Their brains don't work right.

Then we have to ask: was he armed or acting in a threatening manner?

@amerika none of that was in question. No one is denying that he is "crazy" or even dangerous. The issue people have is that we pay these cops to deal with dangerous crazy people and we dont pay them to shoot them. the truth is there are crazy dangerous people in other countries all the time and more often than not the cops do their job and are able to (usually) subdue such people and they them the help they need. We expect the same from our cops. In fact many police in many nations dont even have guns to ensure that isnt even an option for them.

@freemo

That's nice, but in these areas, you need to be armed.

Try having a 1500 mile border with Mexico.

Even more, we DO pay these cops to shoot people who are threats to (1) cops (2) other people and (3) their own families.

There's not much you can do with crazy when it acts crazy and refuses to be arrested quietly.
@amerika @freemo controversial opinion: cops terminating crazy people when theyโ€™re acting crazy is actually not a bad thing and beneficial to collective society on a macro level since we got rid of giant sanitariums.
@kino @freemo

Arguably it is eugenics, but it also gets the crazies off the street, which is why ordinary people don't care about it.

They're either going into asylums for life or into the ground, if we want to protect our people, so it's six of one, half dozen of another!
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@amerika

There is literally nothing in this response that lines up with reality.. Most ordinary people do tend to care about mental health, it is a big topic in america.

The idea that their options are an insane asylum for life or the ground is also completely disconnected with reality. The vast majority of people who need to be treated for a mental disorder go on to lead healthy lives, the ones who never really find an effective treatment and need to stay locked up for life are quite rare.

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