@freemo I guess with "facts" you mean that you agree with this opinion.

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@VictorVenema It means I recognize this as fact

Thought there isnt much distinction. While there are some set of facts that make up the universe deciding what things fall into that category and what doesnt is always a matter of your own opinion when evaluating the evidence you have seen. In my case I am able to recognize this as one of those facts, others may not think that is correct.

@freemo I recognize it as a story without nuance with a true core that corporations have much to much influence in American politics.

One reason they have so much influence is a flood of "free market" propaganda, while that is something that does not exist. In an interdependent world your freedom is always limited by the freedom of others. We can at best maximize freedom.

@VictorVenema It is hardly about america, it is true in most countries. In fact places with the least free markets have some of the worst sorts of personal and economic hardships.

@freemo In Somalia you have hardly any government meddling in the free markets. Not doing so well.

There are big differences between countries how well your story without nuance fits to reality. Try to understand Dutch politics, it is very different from US politics.

Something which is true everywhere: there are no free markets. There are only places where the ruling class and corporations may feel like they are in a free market as they are free to destroy other people's freedoms.

@VictorVenema We call that cherry picking, thats not how we find truth.

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