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Everything is a right, by default.. some you just cant exercise. All your really saying is people should not be allowed to exercise their right to drive a car without approval.. thats fine, nothing wrong with that stance. The important part here is recognizing that rights are **never** granted, by default everything is a right, governments just choose which of them to take away. Good governments take away the right ones, bad governments take away the wrong ones.
@hamjb@mstdn.social
That is correct! It's also 'just a way of looking at it from a different angle' 
The end result is the same indeed but just how you interperted it I guess..
I think mine is more "positive" though! For example: 'The right to murder someone in cold blood.' (your way says its a right you cannot do) I say it's not a right at all 
Btw, not only the government makes those "restrictions" we also do haha! Murder for example is never a right ever ever
Well no not exactly.. I would word it differently "everyone has the right not to be killed, if you permit people to murder then you take away that right"
The default is a single human being in an infinitely empty universe.. you have all ther ights to do anything, stab what you likely, shoot what you like, the right to everything.. then you introduce other human being to the thought experiment, now you have rights which can no longer co-exist and be exercised, thats where governments come in. Their entire purpose is to resolve contradictory rights that arise when humans exist as groups.
@hamjb@mstdn.social
Haha but that also the different angle right Is totally depends how you look at it xD There's no right or wrong only the ones we make up 
Hm.. Governments or regilion?
Isn't that kinda the same deal in this story?
I know what you mean indeed but now in 2021 those "restrictions" or "taken away rights" are generally accepted (mostly) like don't kill another hooman etc
I would never argue that we shouldnt take away or restrict some rights, we should within reason. and yea religion can often serve a similar purpose.
though to go back to the original statement, I would say that driving a car isnt one of those things a government should really have the right to regulate.. it seems almost absurd to me personally. If im being reckless then yes, arrest me, but as long as I'm driving safely I shouldnt need to seek anyones permission to do so.
@hamjb@mstdn.social
Well, I would never ever go out on the streets ever again if a licence or insurance for example was not required by the government hahaha!
Omfg.. People WITH a licence can barely keep control over a 1000KG+ weighing death machine let alone without any "proof" omg.. That's death for everyone!
Its hard getting a licence here but i think it should be even harder.. Let them practice before killing another person :(
You probably would when you realized it didnt make things anymore dangerous, wehn you realize it was never licenses or insurances keeping things in check but rather peoples desire not to kill a little kid and go to jail for 10 years
@hamjb@mstdn.social
@freemo @hamjb
Let me put it another way 😇
I have my licence for about 9 years now I think but i still am very uncomfortable driving a car.. I can drive thats not the issue but I constantly keep reminding myself of things that can go wrong with this heavy machine that goes over 120/130KM/H and that's me! If something goes wrong I have almost zero control over the situation, how does this go with more 'fragile' people who also take on the road.. If I get myself killed it's "okay" but others? no
@freemo @hamjb
That's a bonus haha! Trust me, police helps for sure! And even the pennalties.
for sure people don't wanna kill, I hope..! Else they belong or in jail or into a nuthouse 😇