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What is it with conservatives and this "there are only two sexes" nonsense... Are they trying to convince us they arent any smarter than a grade schooler or something. Anyone who has had more than an elementary school education knows full well its not that simple...
@freemo it is that simple unless you list deformities and birth defects. I was ok with separating gender and sex but now this shit is getting ridiculous.
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I don't know if anyone needs to hear this but klinfelter syndrome isn't its own sex, it's a set of symptoms occurring in males. XYY syndrome is likewise a genetic condition occurring in males. XY gonadal dysgenesis on the other hand is a genetic condition that occurs in females. There is no third sex and freemo is a fucking retard.
kleinfelter syndrom is considered to be part of the intersex spectrum. In other words, they have some qualities of males, others of females.
I never claimed there was a third sex either, so clearly your reading skills are as excellent as your biology skills. Intersex does not imply that there are more than 2 sexes, it implies that sex is a spectrum and they can and do fall anywhere on that spectrum from female, to ambiguous/both, to male.
Huh, what do you mean others.. thats like saying "warm doesnt exist because there is only cold and hot".. there arent others, it is a spectrum, there are people who are not clearly one or the other, there are people with both, there are people who are strongly female or strongly male.
Who said anything about a third sex? I have pointed out several times its not about there being a third sex, its about there not being 2 discrete sexes but rather a continuous spectrum of sexes between 2 extremes.
Likewise the existance of ovotestis **is** a spectrum, and I linked a scientific paper that even goes into the expectrum of the ovotestis and one way on measure wear on the spectrum a particular person's ovotestis happen to be.
This should be obvious as it has tissue with properties of each end of the spectrum and can develop closer to one end or the other to any degree at all on that spectrum.
No your confusing the act of sex, with the sex of the organism engaging in it.. The act of sex does not define the sex of the organism engaged in it.. your trying to warp the actual science behind how animals are sexed with your own biases, and it doesnt match the reality.
Infertile women, for example are still women, they can not produce children, have no gametes to speak of, but are women because, quite simply, sex is not determines strictly by your gametes but by a whole list of features. Those features are not an "all or nothing" deal and thus sex, while generally favoring one end of the spectrum or the other, is still quite clearly on a spectrum.
looks like someone needs to open up a medical dictionary. They are defined by their reproductive organs and the function (expression) of their genetics, which entails a rather long complicated list of what constitutes function in any one species.
You will never find any medical dictionary defining sex **solely** on the basis of gametes, in fact you likely wont even find the word games in the definition in most medical dictionaries.
One sec let me get mind and find their exact wording.
Yup as expected the medical dictionary says pretty much exactly what I just said, that sex is defined by ones reproductive organs (not the gametes) and ones function. The exact wording is as follows:
" Either of the two divisions, designated female and male, by which most organisms are classified on the basis of their reproductive organs and functions"
-- The American Heritage Medical Dictionary
