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@TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social forcing people to take a drug to participate in society is kinda worse than hitler in a way
@freemo do not cry us a river.
You have the option of not getting vaccinated. All good with that.
Pandemic requires everybody is vaccinated in planes, restaurants, etc. It is common sense.
We never needed "passports" like this before and its just fine.. your argument is so stupid, anyone who wants to be protected can and will just take the vaccine
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measles, tuburculosis, smallpox.. none of these required registrations or mandatory vaccination and guess what, they are damn near nonexistant in the country today... so tell me again why it is needed? Clearly the evidence in every single disease we vaccinated to date shows it is not.
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@freemo they do not mutate like this one. Besides, population used to see the effect of those diseases so they were more willing to be vaccinated.
Today's COVID19 fight is a political stance (it is crazy and stupid, but it is what it is).
So times and virus are not comparable.
Do the math. Build a model if you do not like current models. Variants will be predominant and we need all of them GONE with this version of the vaccine. We do not need a mutation resistant to current version of vaccines...
@icedquinn Because the flu virus mutates a lot.
COVID19 virus does not mutate so much (Compared with flu). But still it mutates a lot.
Let's be all vaccinated and move on...
I was going to get vaccinated once it had the same safety as other vaccines.. but now that the vaccine passport is a thing I will absolutely refuse vaccination and encourage others do the same
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@freemo @icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom
That is no sense. If you believe the vaccine is effective, go ahead. Nothing changed.
In any case, you deserve your decision is respected.
And the Covid's vaccine is a need for some activities (as concerts and stuff like that).
No one has made a single science based argument as to why it should be required for **any** activity. If you want to be protected when you go to a concern, get a vaccine.. you dont need to make ME get a vaccine for that... The only way you were able to back up that nonsense is by making up some fantasy that is absolutely not backed by any data or science that COVID is unusually more likely to mutate and thus if everyone doesnt get vaccinated it will still put you at risk.
@icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
@freemo I am sure it will not be required for all the activities. But for some.
And the criteria will narrow when we know more about this virus. This is the 1st year we know it.
Because of that, by definition everything is experimental. Everything is new and everything is on going research.
We do not know if vaccinated people could infect no vaccinated people. That is the core of "keep using masks after you are vaccinated". We know that vaccinated people will not die of this and will not go to the hospital. Could they still carry the virus and infect others? We do not know. Studies are on the way.
SOOOO they required masks and some industries require passports. That is a bias, because it is safer to have a false positive (aka: to assume people will infect, but they will not) than a false negative (aka: to assume people will not infect, but they will).
We will results about that important questions in some weeks.
It is an on going crisis. And nobody really knows enough about the virus. So the best it to have bias in the false positive side.
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