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@10grans withdraw 0.093233333336666665
to 
I transferred what you gave me out of the bot and into my hardware wallet, lol. But you can see my hardware wallet address with your tip in it, and it clearly states its worth 10$:
https://ubiqscan.io/address/0xeafed38122b733feeddc1326fd77e767494a30c3
Oh shit. I need to find an alex jones post to tip...
Na fuck it. I think he's entertaining as fuck (if you don't take him seriously). So..
@10grans tip 0.1 to @AlexJones
That's worth it for laugh value alone. Now Alex has received crypto through fedi! Queue the FBI!
Ok, I thought I figured it out. I thought I was putting two spaces accidentally (copy paste) between "to" and the username, and that was making the tip fail. Now, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong again.
@10grans tip 0.01 to @icedquinn
10 grans, interesting tipping system?
@10grans makeitrain 0.1
@Coyote @icedquinn @10grans @doktorzhivago @mystik @Genen @Johncdvorak @genen @freemo I don't work for tips
Wow, well officially "Fuck Adam Curry" on that one, what an absolute fucking asshole comment about the new crypto that has a cool feature to share though fedi.
I still think it's very cool that someone invented method of transferring crypto through Fedi. People start using it and talking about it. Adam gets a token in a conversation about the crypto and responds:
"I don't work for tips"
Not only dismissive of the whole concept of transferring money directly in Fedi, so hung up on semantics that he's being a complete dick-wad in the middle of the conversation pretty much insulting the whole concept (while pocketing the money, rather than returning it), and walks away.
Fuck Adam Curry. We could insult his work too, but, to easy. I've seen people call others words I won't even fucking use on Fedi this week, and that was the coldest, rudest, most egotistical, unnecessary insult I've seen all week. (week, not year). I will continue to "spend" 10Grans on people I have on comments I value. (value for value?). I'm not going to insult a guys whole project just because a BOT uses the word "tip" to activate. Again, total dick move Adam, total dick move. Fucking rude.
So fuck it, I cut his name out, and this whole thread had been informative to me, and I learned a lot, so when some people are jerks, others need to step up and show appreciation. so.... I'm going to ignore the hater and keep having fun.
@10grans makeitrain 0.2
@Coyote @icedquinn @10grans @doktorzhivago @mystik @Genen @Johncdvorak @genen @freemo Woohoo. Triggered. We need price discovery for creative content. Positioning it as as "tipping" is not just semantics. Words matter. Change your words, change your world.
If I understood correctly, your post's message basically is "do I look like a waitress to you? gimme moar, bitch!".
Dude, aren't you saying you just want people to not make you have to set up a wallet to transfer another form of currency? But, your main message is decentralize and distributed? Doesn't add up Adam.
Your system has never got me tips on fedi. And I provide some rich comical content that's paying off in sweet sweet 10grans.
The bot itself is, but the coin and blockchain they pull from isnt. I can transfer you 10grans without going throught he bot or I can set up my own bot that is able to hand out 10grans in the same way as the main bot. The bot is just a gateway to a decentralized tech.
@10grans @adam @Genen @doktorzhivago@liberdon.com @Johncdvorak @genen @Coyote @icedquinn
Tipbots are nice, but still only for tips.
What do you mean by "not your keys" exactly? or for that matter "only for tips" what else would a tipbot be used for that isnt appropriate?
@10grans @adam @Genen @doktorzhivago@liberdon.com @Johncdvorak @genen @Coyote @icedquinn
@freemo @mystik @10grans @adam @Genen @doktorzhivago @Johncdvorak @genen @Coyote @icedquinn it sounds like he means "not your keys, not your coins" or that if you don't have the private keys (which exist on the bot or the CEX side) that you don't have "control" of your coins.
Example, you put coins on Coinbase & then they ban you & then no more coins.
Right, but you can just withdraw your keys from the bot to your wallet. So I'm not sure i see that as an issue, just never let your balance on the bot accumulate to anything large enough that it is more than the relative trust you have for the bot... For example keep 1$ max in the bot at any time and always withdrawl the rest to your own wallet.
It would also be trivial for moon to add a auto-withdraw feature where if your balance ever exceeds a certain value it automatically withdraws to your own wallet.
@mystik @10grans @adam @Genen @doktorzhivago@liberdon.com @Johncdvorak @genen @Coyote @icedquinn
1. the critics are right, the tipbot is a custodial wallet. but freemo is also right, you can withdraw your grans to a true crypto wallet, we place no restrictions on this other than a small withdrawal fee to cover our blockchain transaction. do so and you have complete control of them.
2. we don't promote the activity, but 10grans is on an exchange and people do buy and sell it like any other crypto-token, although it uses a different blockchain than ethereum or bitcoin so there's extra work to convert it to fiat (but is totally possible, and many people have done so.) More info here: https://blog.ubiqsmart.com/the-ubiq-dex-introducing-shinobi-5433adecc5e3
@Coyote I actually have a youtube video on how to use 10grans tipbot which includes how to deposit and withdraw, but it needs to be updated for the new wallet software.
What if we designed a protocol that allows for bots to communicate with other instances' bots?
For people to withdraw they would have to ask their instance admin to install the bot, by running a plugin/script.
It would be effectively decentralized (not totally distributed, but decentralized).
Why would it have to tie into your instance keypair at all.. let each bot have their own keypair, you register your wallet public key by simply posting it in your description or in a public post and then deposit the crypto into whatever bot in the fediverse you trust (and only in small increments).. then when bots tip someone instead of that money just being held as a value in an internal balance it would go directly to the wallet registered in the account.
@joshbdoc @adam @10grans @Genen @doktorzhivago@liberdon.com @Johncdvorak @genen @Coyote @Moon @icedquinn
>"Why would it have to tie into your instance keypair at all"
To send to people that don't have a keypair or even know that such thing exists.
In and of itself it cant work that way without a few extra steps. Crypotcurrencies use public-private keys of entierly different algorithms than the ones fediverse servers use. So there needs to be a step that translates the instances key in one algo tot he key in the desired algo. That is doable but traditionally the standard does that through ciphering the private key and not the public. If that standard were maintained it would mean the owner of the instance would need to be aware and set it up before it could take transfers...
All that said I see a big problem with that approach.. Right now if someone tipped me 1 grans I can withdraw that from the bot because the bot is aware of crypto. IF instead that 1 grans was somehow transferred to a wallet associated with my instance, and assuming the admin of my instance didnt bother to setup the crypto and never does, that means all money sent to me is lost in a void never to be retrieved, at least now I can withdraw my crypto.
@joshbdoc @adam @10grans @Genen @doktorzhivago@liberdon.com @Johncdvorak @genen @Coyote @Moon @icedquinn
>That is doable but traditionally the standard does that through ciphering the private key and not the public.
It's feasible, I think.
>If that standard were maintained it would mean the owner of the instance would need to be aware and set it up before it could take transfers...
I think that you don't need it in advance. You can derive the 10gran private key from the instance's public key. IN THEORY.
well no you cant.. if you could do that then anyone could derrive it and then anyone could steal the funds stored in the instance since they would have the private key. Thus the problem.
The only non-standard way you could do it would require a unique key for every single instance-bot pair derived through the diffe-helman algorithm. But while that would create viable private keys it wouldnt be able to be reconstructed and discovered after-the-fact by an instance that doesnt participate until later. So it still wouldnt have the desired results your after.
@joshbdoc @adam @10grans @Genen @doktorzhivago@liberdon.com @Johncdvorak @genen @Coyote @Moon @icedquinn
