@coolboymew
They were, but they were also completely docile until he literally died then one dude started creeping up but immediately backed down. Either way its not a free ticket to kill someone or denying other cops the right ti check on his safety. Once he was unconscious him continuing to strangle him was obvious intent to murder.
@ChristiJunior

@freemo @ChristiJunior

>They were, but they were also completely docile

Irrelevant. The fact remains that it adds to the difficulty that you got someone that is completely out of his mind, the dude was completely far gone and could not even understand a single fucking word they told him and could not even comply with orders

Drugged individuals can go from 0 to 100 real fucking quick and having idiots congregating around increased the pressure ten fold

@coolboymew
None of that excuses shit.. a few people standing around docile doesnt make your murder excusable. Again once the man was unconscious he just sat there strangling doing nothing else. Thats not handling the situation. He. Ould have told the other officers to handcuff his feet once he went unconcious and get off him after he was cuffed. Dude woukd have still been dead but then i could atleast see some possibility of it not being second degree murder. But no he just sat there strangling a lifeless body and doing little else, no excuse.
@ChristiJunior

@coolboymew @ChristiJunior
Fyi even after the cop literally said he had no pulse he continued to strangle him... So the whole "drug addicts are unpredictable" is all well and good but once he is dead they become pretty damn predictable and does t excuse the continued strangulation rather than resuscitation.

@freemo @coolboymew @ChristiJunior If he was strangled, how come he didn't die until after he was on the way to the hospital?

@realcaseyrollins
Mot true, the EMTs said they did not detect a pulse in Floyd when they arrived on the scene. He was dead before entering the ambulance.

Provide your source please.
@ChristiJunior @coolboymew

@freemo @ChristiJunior @coolboymew Interesting. I'll need to check that testimony, the only testimony I was aware of said that he passed away in transit.

@freemo @ChristiJunior What murder?

- The autopsy clearly says it's drug induced asphyxiation (Have you even read it?)
- Cocktail of drugs found in his system, enough to kill even
- Video clearly shows that the dude was completely far gone, too high to understand anything and couldn't even comply with orders
- Complained several times to have a hard time breathing already
- The cops were patient as fuck from this point, seriously
- However, was hardly credible due to throwing a massive toddler like tantrum in the cop car and then later asking to be put on the floor
- Does not show lesions or anything special in the neck area
- Other footage shows that Chauvin moved his knee hold several times, indicating some level of care and thought was put into it
- His training indicated to use it in those situations and Floyd asked to be put down on the ground
- A "force" specialist was called in court by the prosecution and told that Chauvin was well within his rights to use MORE force. Chauvin chose otherwise
- All that while they waited for the ambulance as I've been told


This is bullshit dude and the jurors were completely taken by the propaganda and violence threats

@coolboymew
Ive posted the autopsy several times on my feed, yes obviously i read it.

Dude was unconscious for 4 minutes and he sat on his neck. Police officer identifies him as having no pulse and chaivchauvinin still sat on his neck 3 more minutes.

None of the other points you make are the least bit relevant beyond that. When you sit on someones neck with no pulse, your intention is clear to murder him, period.

@ChristiJunior

They literally called the ambulance before they even put him on the ground. Murder is the intentional killing of someone. IDK about you, and maybe I'm a weirdo, but if I was going to murder someone, I wouldn't call an ambulance.
@freemo @coolboymew @ChristiJunior

@wishgranter14

No that was not Chauvin or his partner. The other cops on the scene before chauvin arrived call the EMT. Chauvin wasnt even aware the EMT had been called till much later

@ChristiJunior @coolboymew

No, they called for an ambulance when Floyd was crying about not being able to breath and had banged his head on the squad car. This was before he was put on the ground. And he was put on the ground because he asked to be put on the ground. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJlQvOgEx58 Watch that video. It takes the incident step by step. This was not murder. You could argue manslaughter, but even then that's a stretch since there is no evidence a strangulation occurred.
@freemo @ChristiJunior @coolboymew

@coolboymew @freemo @ChristiJunior If they voted to acquit all of their loved ones would be in danger and their info would be spread all over the internet. They'd probably end up fired and blackballed from employment, too. They would have to leave the country.

That's how mob rule works. These trials are show trials as long as jurors have the threat of violent or financial retaliation hanging over them. We cannot have a just legal system as long as this remains the case.

@mrsaturday @coolboymew @ChristiJunior @freemo when did everyone become such a pusillanimous worm?

@mrsaturday @ChristiJunior @freemo The Judge did a really retarded job with the jurors, they should've been in protection custody, and with technology nowadays, there was 0 excuse to have them be on site

@mrsaturday @coolboymew @ChristiJunior @freemo The solution is to take action to ensure that in the future people are more afraid of what we're going to do to them if they side with the niggers than what the niggers will do to them if they don't. There is no other option.

@coolboymew @freemo @ChristiJunior The judge already said any conviction could be overturned due to jury tampering. At that point what does the jury do, deliberate on the charges? Nah, just guilty on everything to appease the mob then hope it becomes someone else's problem on appeal.

@coolboymew @freemo @ChristiJunior the one question i don't see anyone asking and its kind of irrelevant to the trial is if he knew there was fentanyl in his drugs or not because there is a big problem with fentanyl being snuck into other drugs without the buyers knowledge and sometimes the dealer doesn't know either, its a mystery where its getting into the supply chain and a big problem for the dealers so they are actually unhappy this is happening and obviously the users who dying of overdoses are not happy with the situation either. If he was on fentanyl . When i first heard he was on drugs I thought it was a myth and disinformation but in the trial it was revealed that he was in fact on drugs, which doesn't really effect the verdict anyways

@Bubbul @ChristiJunior @freemo if you check the video, you can clearly see that he is high as fuck and can barely even understand the orders

@coolboymew
I never denied that. Does t change the fact the Chauvin continued to sit on his neck even after he was told he had no pulse... No other evidence of any kind makes hi. I. Ocent when thst fact is true.
@Bubbul @ChristiJunior

@freemo @Bubbul @ChristiJunior I just checked back, bullshit

There was no professional on the scene to give a confirmation, the passerbys are NOT professionals and the retards in the crowd were being quite belligerent really making the situation worse

@coolboymew @freemo @Bubbul @ChristiJunior you're arguing with a leftist who believes in the cnn unreality narrative.

@Nudhul @coolboymew @Bubbul @freemo And that a nonsensical verdict after blatant jury intimidation is Justice.

@ChristiJunior @Bubbul @coolboymew @freemo he's guilty of MURDER and NEGLIGENT homicide simultaniously and this dude thinks that makes any sense. he was also somehow strangled to death despite no damage to his neck and a blood oxygen level of 98%.

@Nudhul
It makes sense because they are served simultaneously so they dont actually represent additional penalties. It is common practice to do this incase the stronger charge doesnt stick.
@Bubbul @ChristiJunior @coolboymew

@freemo @Bubbul @ChristiJunior @coolboymew it's only common practice in socialist kangaroo courts to convict someone of contradictory charges to ensure *something* sticks.

@Nudhul @freemo @Bubbul @ChristiJunior @coolboymew like school shootings and gun control

@Nudhul
They arent contradictory. One is second degree murser the other is 3rd degree. Literally a lesser form of the other.
@Bubbul @ChristiJunior @coolboymew

@freemo @Bubbul @ChristiJunior @coolboymew if you think they aren't contradictory then you don't know what the charges entail. simple as.

@Nudhul
I am well aware.. he wanted to kill the man but he didnt plan it before hand (second degree) and in doing so he acted neglegently (third degree). This isnt rocket science.

@Bubbul @ChristiJunior @coolboymew

@freemo @Bubbul @ChristiJunior @coolboymew so in your mind, derek wanted to kill george, but not in a manner in which a person with lethal intent would kill someone?

do you understand why that doesn't make sense?

@Nudhul
Not what i said, nor is it what 3rd degree means in context. 3rd degree is not exclusionary of second degree. 3rd degree only suggests the action was negligent, it does not require that negligence to be unintentional.

Anyone convinced guilty of second degree is always automatically guilty of third degree, though you cant always try someone for both at the same time, that depends on the state, but guilt of one always implies guilt in a lesser degree.

@Bubbul @ChristiJunior @coolboymew

@freemo @Bubbul @ChristiJunior @coolboymew how can neigence not be unintentional? the definition of negligence requires the outcome to be unintentional.

@Nudhul

Incorrect, the legal definition of negligence makes no assumptions about i tent. This is the legal definition:

A failure to behave with the level of care that someone of ordinary prudence would have exercised under the same circumstances. The behavior usually consists of actions, but can also consist of omissions when there is some duty to act (e.g., a duty to help victims of one's previous conduct).

@Bubbul @ChristiJunior @coolboymew

@freemo @Nudhul @Bubbul @ChristiJunior @coolboymew incoherent taomudry. this nigger is trolling.

@freemo @Nudhul @Bubbul @ChristiJunior @coolboymew youre guilty of one, the other or neither - not both. shitlibs suddenly love a rigged legal system when it railroads a guy. fucking scumbags.

@buttered_poasties

Incorrect, and it is quite common to be convicted of both. In states where it is allowed it is the norm.

@Bubbul @ChristiJunior @coolboymew @Nudhul

@ChristiJunior @Nudhul @Bubbul @freemo including a freaking senator (right title?) IIRC

That is ludicrous and the Judge should've called a mistrial like he threatened to like 5 times

@coolboymew @ChristiJunior @Bubbul @freemo representative maxine waters, a well known racial agitprop agent.

@Nudhul @coolboymew @Bubbul @ChristiJunior @freemo KILL YOUR TV

@Nudhul
I am literally neither a leftist and have called out cnn as bias and not news many times.. nice try
@Bubbul @ChristiJunior @coolboymew

@coolboymew
Both the cop on the scene said he had no pulse, and he is trained in taking a pulse, and the emts who arrived said he had no pulse. So yes chauvin continued to sit on his neck 3 minutes after a trained police officer said he jad no pulse.
@Bubbul @ChristiJunior

@freemo @coolboymew @Bubbul @ChristiJunior https://lawofselfdefense.com/chauvin-trial-the-big-lie-of-the-3-minute-plus-restraint-while-pulseless/

@freemo @coolboymew @ChristiJunior So you never worked as any type of responder. The crowd was aggressive and yelling at personnel. The first thing your taught as an EMT is to establish a safe scene. You’re taught if they’re is an aggressive group to leave. Having dealt with OD’s in the past the cops care more about the safety of themselves and others than the dumbass drowning in his own vomit and for good reason.

@NotImportant @freemo @ChristiJunior Also the nurse thing isn't real, she was a fire fighter if the transcript here is accurate

https://www.twincities.com/2020/07/09/george-floyd-transcript-read-it-in-full-here/

@coolboymew @ChristiJunior @freemo Even if she was an EMT she didn’t have her identification on her. Even if she did you do not allow some random person to show up and start operating on your pt. Those cops would of rightfully got fucked if they did that. “So the man died after you let some random stranger start fucking with him? Yes your honor. Welcome to jail retard!”

@NotImportant
The cops were trained in cpr and shoukd have given it themselves, so in part i agree. But the point is thry knew he was dead and made no attempt to save his life despite having multiple tools (including their own cpr training) to do so

@ChristiJunior @coolboymew

@freemo @ChristiJunior @coolboymew How would they know? It’s not like you feel someone’s soul leaving their body. It is not their job to assess a pt and provide medical aid. They are to create a secure scene for medical personnel to operate or until medical personnel can leave the scene with the pt. With your statement alone you already acknowledge that it was not murder (which requires intent). The fact they are not responsible for performing a proper medical assessment as well as treatment disproves negligence and especially manslaughter. What multiple tools are you even talking about? Cops at best carry personnel life saving gear for themselves if they go personally go down. If they would of started some form of medical intervention and Floyd still died (as he would have looking at not just his toxicology report but also the status of his heart) they would of gotten fucked by that as well. Even paramedics who are off shift will fuck off if their is a medical emergency near them because one mistake could fuck them forever.

@NotImportant

They know because the other officer took his pulse and said he didnt and after that chauvin stayed on him

@ChristiJunior @coolboymew

@freemo @ChristiJunior @coolboymew That was not in any video played by the court, but even if that is true, a cop’s job isn’t to provide medical aid in an unsecured scene. Even if what you say is true it does not prove murder nor manslaughter. At best you could argue negligence, but seeing as they called for medical assistance that wouldn’t work as well.