imagine enacting a :blobcatphoto: but quinn over misreading a grammatical structure

@icedquinn It wasnt about the gramatical structure, it was about the incorrect facts it inferred (which were still incorrect once you corrected your wording).

@freemo i didn't correct the wording because it wasn't structured wrong to begin with :blobcatpuffyhuh:

@icedquinn Either way, your statement was incorrect.. there is no meaningful link between SAr-COV-2 and the common cold

@freemo i also didn't claim there was :blobcatpuffyhuh:

i said the ones we know about have a lot of mutations, therefore inferred they are highly mutatable.
@icedquinn @freemo From what I've seen, SARS-CoV-2 actually mutates quite slowly, certainly slower than influenza or any number of cold coronaviruses
@allison IIRC it mutates every two weeks but mutations within a particular lineage of viruses mutate slowly.

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@thatbrickster @freemo @icedquinn In any case, most mutations are basically inconsequential. The "mutants" you hear about are just the ones that actually manage to do anything to distinguish themselves from their brethren

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Actually coronavirus and all RNA viruses mutate **faster** than DNA viruses.. its just that recombination isnt considered a mutation so DNA viruses **adapt** quicker without relying on mutations (as in novel genes)

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@freemo @allison @thatbrickster my concern is that like the initial outbreak, there are only so many cycles before containment is essentially failed.

what is the expectation? are they going to put everyone back in to lockdown every time a mutation is found (which there will always be one) until they can rush a new EUA and just keep people on an indefinite chain of experimental vaccines? :blobcatshrug2:

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Two seperate topics here.. 1) the discussion around how likely and common it will be for the CV to circumvent vaccines and 2) what procedure saves the most lives when there is an outbreak.

To #1, we should be pretty good. Its always a crap shoot but even against current variants like the delta variant the vaccine efficacy is still very higher (88% - 93%). so in reality people are over reacting over it. As long as people are getting vaccinated they are pretty safe

As for #2, lockdowns were never an effective solution even before it mutated. We had contagion guidelines in place long before CV and while quarantine was a part of it, that only carried so far as to when the virus is in a isolated geographic location. All traditional advice when it comes to contagion suggests that once a virus is out into the wild that lockdowns cause greater loss of life and are not effective at reducing the total long term body count.

So considering lockdown as a viable solution has never been a good idea.

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>vaccine efficacy is still very higher (88% - 93%).
post some evidence for this. hint: you don't have any.

correct the CDC and WHO's crap numbers and you'll find that the vaccine is far more dangerous than the virus itself.
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registration required... if someone is registered and wants to get me the study i'll read it with an open mind

but i'm not going to jump through any hoops to find it
@thatbrickster @allison @freemo @icedquinn sends me to a login page. you're probably logged in with google or some other big tech spy cookie
@meowski I think the paper is either not public or taken down. Sci Hub is having trouble finding it.

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I can tell you that when I had reviewed it last I had to go through a paywall.

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@freemo It's marked as a pre-print so maybe it was taken off because it needed revision? I've seen one on the Brazilian variant but >hamsters.

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@thatbrickster @freemo @allison @icedquinn maybe it's just all bullshit and if you take the vaccine against a virus that is 99.9+% survivable you're a sucker
@meowski I prefer not to see it through a life/death lens. Here I wish to remain neutral.

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@thatbrickster @allison @freemo @icedquinn fair enough, because either way your risk is fairly low of dying

i'm more concerned about the boot licking slave mentality that is spreading like a cancer worldwide
@meowski I agree that risk of death is low and the punishments for not taking the jabs are disproportionately unfair.

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