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@yaksha You realize that is only unique to israel and is the result of the fact that such a huge portion of the population that is vulnerable is vaccinated (90%+ of those over 50 years old)..
So this is perfectly normally and in no way suggests a problem. If the majority of the population is vaccinated than the majority of new cases will be vaccinated.
1) of course unvaccinated people would get sick more than the vaccinates
2) it kind of implies a lower number (more vaccinated people getting hospitalized) would be better. ie what percentage should it be?
You have to keep in mind the numbers arent likely saying what you think they are.
If 99 out of 100 unvacinated people get infected, but 10 out of 100 vaccinated people get infected, then clearly the vaccination reduces infection.
However even if the above numbers are true if an overwhelming majority of people are vaccinated then you will see **more** people in the hospital with covid that are vaccinated than unvaccinated.
@yaksha
they have to use these large, less meaningful numbers to try and convince people because trying to tell them their actual covid fatality rate (for those 70 and below i think is the range) isn't doing the job.
If 90% of the susceptible population is vaccinated.
The vaccines are about 72% effective overall and 86% effective against severe infection.
Threfore out of 1000 people, assuming everyone is being exposed to the virus, then you'd expect 252 people who were vaccinated to contract covid and only 100 vaccinated people.
In other words with the real world numbers, even with the vaccines being significantly effective, we would see 2.5x **more** people showing up in hospitals that are vaccinated with covid than unvaccinated.
Come on now this isnt complicated stuff!
@yaksha
Well I just did the actual math for you (albeit slightly simplified). I literally showed why you'd **expect** it in the case of israel.
@yaksha
60% of people being admitted to UK hospitals are unvaccinated - adviser*
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/
https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187
no one is going to mention that multiple of these "vaccines" are not real vaccines and that dictionaries have quietly updated their definitions of vaccine in the most Orwellian manner?
that the FDA has not approved any of these "vaccines"?
that the third stage trials are still not complete in these "vaccines"?
that children who are not at risk are being shilled these "vaccines"?
that any preventative measure or otherwise non-"vaccine" measure against COVID-19 has been shilled against to the point no one remembers them?
that a handful of powerful companies are reaping monetary rewards at the expense of taxpayers to drive the "free" "vaccines"?
i guess circle jerking about numbers is ok too
https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187