@freemo @Pat @sergeantcat
@Pat @freemo @sergeantcat
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Of course VARES counts. What you cant do is just say "hey look I added a all the numbers in this column and got this big number"... THAT is meaningless. If you want to infer things from VARES you need a based understanding of statistics to know how to pick out meaningful patterns. It isnt as simple as adding.
> vaccines are safe
> look at this database we made to prove how little incidents there are
> look at this yearly average
> now stop looking at the database because one of the columns has just exploded and its solely due to one newly approved thing
> quinn you just don't understand statistics
>multiply VAERS numbers by approximately 100 because less than 1% of cases get reported
Meaningless in this case since you'd also have to multiple the other past vaccines by a similar number and thus would not cause any difference int he normalization.
No your missing the point. VARES derived absolute numbers arent really all that important. We care about how it compares to the background rates. The rate for a known safe vaccine compared to the rate for a new vaccine. As long as their prevalence for reporting is similar then the absolute real world values arent needed.
no, really the correct absolute numbers are imoortant. you're going to see higher numbers in relation to otyher vaccines because more people have taken this vaccine. we need correct absolute numbers to understand the rate of adverse reactions
Absolute numbers are important, but you wont get it from VARES. For that you need double-blind random samples.
Yes you will see higher numbers from this vaccine purely because more people have taken in.. That isnt a problem though, simple normalization adjusts for that. You normalize it to a rate and that becomes a non-issue.
yes i think we do. what happened to those studies? right, they skipped them cause muh emergency
challenge testing is rarely done.
@freemo @Pat @nanook @sergeantcat
@Pat @freemo @nanook @sergeantcat
Agreed, we skipped some safety on the vaccines and left a lot of unknowns. That is a problem, as I have said so since the begining.
> anaphalaxys
they still did! people died ten minutes after vaccination and the immediate response was "ITS NOT RELATED."
Most cases of anaphylaxis are considered to be related to the vaccine. It is acknowledged as one of the most common forms of death for most vaccines.
But it is also far more common in egg-based vaccines (like that used in the flu), as such its not unusually high int he case of the COVID vaccine, but certainly real.
probable exception to this is the anaphylaxis due to it being fairly hard to deny when someone immediately has an allergic reaction
here you go with this slimy shilling for no good reason again. it's like you psychologically just have to jump in and deboonk even when there's nothing to gain from it. indoctrination at its finest