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@freemo
When FDA approves the vaccines in full, they will be mandatory and requested in full by companies.
No more debates with idiots. They will vaccinate for the same reason they use belts on cars or stop on red lights.
@pthenq1 Unlikely, we didnt even do that with the poliovaccine and that disease was many orders of magnitude worse.
Let's continue the conversation in October
@pthenq1 Sure, though they will need to change some pretty huge laws to make that even legal... Thankfully so far no one has made any attempt at walking back HIPAA regulations that protect your medical records.
@freemo no really. Private companies can and will require vaccine probe. Or you can find a job somewhere else.
There's always a Waffle House to look for employment...
@pthenq1 Companies are perfectly welcome to ask for a vaccine probe, what they cant do is demand your private medical records to prove it. Therefore they cant really verify it.
@freemo they can.
Example: https://myvaccinerecord.cdph.ca.gov/
@pthenq1 That is for the vaccine registry, which is voluntary and does not cover all individuals. I can be perfectly vaccinated and not be in that registry and may not be able to even get added to it after the fact.
So no companies cant really lean on that.
@freemo they can. Uncle Sam pays the vaccines and states coordinate the effort. All is recorded (vaccine wise) and legally you can be asked by companies to present probe or be gone. They do all the time things like that with marijuana tests, financial tests, etc.
Again, yes you can be asked if you are vaccinated. But it is very very trivial to lie as there is no consistent and objective way for a person to prove they are vaccinated due to HIPAA making it impossible for the companies to access doctor records directly.
All you have to say is you were vaccinated in a state where there is no vaccine registry (which is most states) and they can probe all they want but they have no legal way to verify your vaccinated.
@pthenq1 Also lets not even forget the religious exemption clause. Even if there was a good way for employers to reliably and consistently verify vaccinations, all a person has to do is state their religious beleifs prevent them from being vaccinated and it would be illegal for the company to do the probe at all. The company would have to prove the person is lying (which is hard to do).
So again while companies might make that requirement it is near to impossible to enforce.
