I just read Spectre's intro blog post, and I gained IQ. THIS is why I love working in #clojure -- how often things are learned that can make you smarter in every domain. http://nathanmarz.com/blog/clojures-missing-piece.html

@worldsendless I wish i could get past how much i dislike the clojure syntax, because it does seem like a great language otherwise.. but the aesthetics make my skin crawl.. HAskell i love but so rarely get the chance to code it.

@freemo whoa -- that's a fresh take for me! Syntax is one of the things I love about all lisps, and Clojure just adds a few modernizations

@worldsendless I find the excessive use of paraenthesis hard to read and just ugly. I have no real functional reason to dislike it other than being hard to read maybe, but mostly i just find it hideous.

That said I started on lisp not clojure which was particularly unpleasant due to having so many varients. That may have gotten my hate going before clojure stood a chance, which doesnt have many of the issues I hated from lisp.

@freemo yeah, I've had similar reactions to CL and ELisp as far as paren disorientation. As much of a cop-out as it feels to suggest a tooling solution, rainbow parens does work wonders.

@worldsendless yea if you format your code well it can solve some of the problem.

I'm pretty happy with haskell as my go to functional language. I love that its pure functional too unlike clojure

@freemo Haskell is for sure on my to-learn list, as it must be for any Functional afficionado

@worldsendless I find it to be quite beautiful once you learn it... it is a bit overwhelming though.

@freemo @worldsendless I got lost in the order of precedence and $. chains when I read Haskell code.

@veer66

Yea there is a lot to learn and it can be rough at first for sure. I'm no expert in haskell myself.

@worldsendless

@freemo @worldsendless I don't think I can do anything useful in Haskell in my lifetime. Still it is fun to learn. 😺

@veer66

You can do quite a bit even with a fraction of the understanding. Alot of the advanced stuff makes code easier to write but its not strictly needed IMO.

@worldsendless

@freemo I also had problem with Haskell string processing performance. A clever man told me to use byte strings instead, but a byte string doesn't have the same function as a normal string.

Another issue when I read Haskell code is that there are so many language extensions. Then the code looks like it is not Haskell anymore. 🤦🏾‍♂️

@worldsendless