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I have standards, they just arent particularly high standards!

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@Pat

As a boobie connoisseur I can tell you those are not boobies. The technical term for those are "manticles" or "man tits"

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@Pat

"I have nipples greg, can you milk me!?"

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One of my favorite De Niro characters.

@Pat

DeNiro was suprisingly good in comedy roles. Not what I would have expected.

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@freemo @BollerwagenPicard@mastodontech.de

I just went back and looked over his filmography. He did comedies all the way back to the 60s. I remember him from "Brazil" in the 80s. Most people remember him from his heavy roles, like "Taxi Driver", and "Deer Hunter".

The Fockers Dad probably wasn't his most demanding role, but it was a very interesting character and he played it well.

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@Pat

I love the movie Brazil, though I dont recall him being in it and honest I never really thought of it as a comedy (though i can see why you might call it that). Taxi driver, yea that one I'll give ya.

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@freemo @BollerwagenPicard@mastodontech.de

Brazil was a satire, a weird satire. I didn't notice De Niro in it at first, but years later when I watched the film again I noticed him. He had a minor role, kind of, he played the HVAC repairman who went around the system to get things done.

@Pat

Now that you meantion the HVAC guy I kinda do remember him.

Satire I can see as a descriptor honestly. For some reason my brain has a hard time accepting satire as humor :)

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@freemo @BollerwagenPicard@mastodontech.de

Brazil was really it's own animal, a ground-breaking film. It was done by some of the Monty Python folks so it has the dry British humor, which is an acquired taste.

Wikipedia excerpt on the film, "Brazil's satire of technocracy, bureaucracy, hyper-surveillance, corporatism and state capitalism is reminiscent of George Orwell's 1949 novel Nineteen Eighty-Four and has been called Kafkaesque and absurdist.
Sarah Street's British National Cinema (1997) describes the film as a "fantasy/satire on bureaucratic society", and John Scalzi's Rough Guide to Sci-Fi Movies (2005) describes it as a "dystopian satire".

@Pat

for some reason in my head 1984 adn Brazil were always two movies that were like twins of each other. I always just saw them both as dystopian authoritative futures. While Brazil certainly has a lighter more comedic feel to it they both felt more like dramas to me than anything resembling a comedy.

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@Pat

In fact I always considered 1984 and Brazil twins and always thought of them together since before this conversation.

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@freemo @BollerwagenPicard@mastodontech.de

The target of their commentaries was pretty much the same (out-of-control, oppressive state) and the vehicle was similar (future dystopian society), but I don't think anyone thinks that 1984 is comical, (at least not today, in the future who's to say), but Brazil is a dry comedy. Fans of dry British humour like it, others don't. British humour is polarizing that way.

@Pat

To me brazil was more about strangeness than comedy in many ways.. but there were some scenes trying to be funny like when the dudes suit fills with shit.

I think the ending of Brazil was just too morbid to feel like a comedy to me.

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@freemo @BollerwagenPicard@mastodontech.de

*****Spoilers ****

I don't remember the suit. I don't actually remember the ending much either, just the heroes repelling down the ropes to rescue the protagonist, and it being a dream or something.

The Monty Python guys got into some really sick humour sometimes. I don't really like making fun of gore and violence, as they often did. But there were a lot of funny sight gags and humorous dialogue in Brazil, if I remember.

@Pat

I love dark humor, its my fave.

The thing about the ending is you as the viewer dont really know if its a dream or not. Its one of those double-meaning endings that movies love to do.

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@freemo @BollerwagenPicard@mastodontech.de

The more artistic films tend to do that more often. If I watch an artistic film, like Brazil, that really stretches reality, I don't mind those endings, it's almost expected. But a regular Hollywood formula film, if they do an ending like that, then I'm disappointed.

@Pat

It all comes down to if it adds to the story of it its just lazy story telling. With Brazil it was a vital part of the story because the whole idea is the government employed techniques for people to no longer know what reality is. It wasnt lazy, it fit with the intent.

What I hate is lazy story telling. Cliff hangers for no reason just to keep you coming back for a new episode or sequel, for example, strikes me as very lazy and is more and more common on tv shows.

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@freemo @BollerwagenPicard@mastodontech.de

Some B movies will totally ruin the ending by accident. They'll leave something important on the cutting room floor, or the writer will just fail to include important clues or even a key image is not in focus or just too dark and then you're totally lost.

@Pat alot of times thats what seperates a good B movie from a bad one honestly.

@freemo

I can sometimes put up with bad acting if they can get the story told.

@Pat I've been watching all the freddy kreugar movies the past few days... im long past caring about the acting :)

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