@posrev We dont even know if he existed, let alone have "real" dates... that said what historic source do you feel would dictate an october date?
@posrev How does that narrow down the date? Israel has fairly warm winters and even if it didnt that could easily describe any of the other 3 seasons
@posrev No argument there, there is no biblical or historical reason to think if he existed his birthday was dec 25th, on that we agree.
The part I disagree is any suggestion that the bible or any historical source explicitly gives a date, month, or season for his birthdate.
BTW the temperature in Bethlehem in December is around 60 degrees F, so more than warm enough.
It was not yet winter.
"There were also in the same region shepherds living out of doors and keeping watch in the night over their flocks." Luke 2:8