@freemo
Jesus was actually born sometime in October. The 25th December is not the actual day of his birth. We know the time of his death.

@posrev We dont even know if he existed, let alone have "real" dates... that said what historic source do you feel would dictate an october date?

@freemo
The Bible says he existed by the testaments of many witnesses. But you have to have faith and touched by the holy spirit helps.

@posrev Sure, I have no issue with your faith in his existence. But again where does the bible or any historic source claim he was born in October? Where did you get that notion from?

@freemo
It was not yet winter.
"There were also in the same region shepherds living out of doors and keeping watch in the night over their flocks." Luke 2:8
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@posrev How does that narrow down the date? Israel has fairly warm winters and even if it didnt that could easily describe any of the other 3 seasons

@freemo
It does'nt. it is not recorded in The Bible the day he was born. But many people believe it was not the 25th December. There is no proof he was born on the Christmas day

@posrev No argument there, there is no biblical or historical reason to think if he existed his birthday was dec 25th, on that we agree.

The part I disagree is any suggestion that the bible or any historical source explicitly gives a date, month, or season for his birthdate.

BTW the temperature in Bethlehem in December is around 60 degrees F, so more than warm enough.

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