@zleap

When vaccines work they are usually great at stopping the spread. For the original strain of covid, for example, it both stopped symptoms **and** stopped the spread.

The new variants however (such as delta, the most prevalent one, and omicron) it is either completely in effective or significantly less effective (hard to draw firm conclusions off what studies we have). The point is, its not effective at stopping the spread because the spike protein it encodes for is different in the variants and thus the antibodies are ineffective to a significant degree (if not completely).

@khaosgrille

@zleap

yea masks im not sure about. The data in them are questionable in either direction so we can only speculate about how or if they are effective.

I think if you are very strict in how you use them they probably help, but most people, almost no one, handles mask with the level of rigor needed for them to be effective.

@khaosgrille

@zleap @freemo here there are FFP2 masks mandatory. maybe that is also a reason for diffent experiences. i remember masks were a problem for the 1920 flue, though afaik corona does not spread so much over surfaces and much more over air.

also soap is still a good thingie.

well im in germany we have no kids anyway and everyone is 60+ years old :akko_hi:
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I suspect the mandatory mask mandates are part of the reason the virus is spreading so fast honestly. It doesnt have much to do with the quality of the mask

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