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@whosthatguurrrl@mstdn.party
No generalizations are not racist. The definition of racism is:
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
Saying a factual statement about what did or didnt happen such as what I said: "I've been in arab communities outside of Israel the people have been some of the kindest people I've ever met."
No thats not racist... The definition is very clear. It also isnt even a generalization, it is simply a statement of fact as to what I experienced and made no extrapolation to "everyone".
It is very odd just how hard you are bending over backwards to find racism where none exists.
"There Is No Such Thing as Race"
https://www.newsweek.com/there-no-such-thing-race-283123
if there is no such thing as race there can't be racism either, xenophobia would be the right term, xenophobia can be fear, hatred or aversion of what is foreign.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia
I dont agree with the premise that there is no such thing as race, so any conclusions drawn from that also fail.
@whosthatguurrrl@mstdn.party @AmpBenzScientist
Sure there is only one humanity, and that humanity is made up of a large spectrum of races.
@whosthatguurrrl@mstdn.party @AmpBenzScientist
Americans have races, there are no races for instance in Sweden.
Of course there are races in sweden, people of foreign races come to sweden all the time. Now if you mean its relatively racially homogeneous, sure.. whats the point?
@whosthatguurrrl@mstdn.party @AmpBenzScientist
Whether youuse the word or not doesnt change the fact that race exists..
@whosthatguurrrl@mstdn.party @AmpBenzScientist
Things dont stop existing just because you belong to another country, it doesnt work that way (Also where do I say I am an american?)
Even if no one in the world knew of the concept of race wouldnt change the fact that it objectively exists.
@whosthatguurrrl@mstdn.party @AmpBenzScientist
Racism was science in Sweden not that long ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Institute_for_Racial_Biology
Race as ann objective and observable fact exists whether you have an institute to study it or not. Though not studying it puts people at risk in many ways, including their health (as we use race to determine certain risk factors for disease for example).
@whosthatguurrrl@mstdn.party @AmpBenzScientist
Ok, but the word ethnicity already exists and it has a completely different meaning than race.. So you took the common defnition of race, and deleted the word... took the definition of ethnicity, erased it and replaced it with the old definition of race... and now have nno word for ethnicity as it is usually defined... i mean ok, sounds really confusing.
But in the end call it whatever you want, I dont care, as long as we recognize race, based on my definition, exists, and its there regardless, you just shuffled around the definitions.
@whosthatguurrrl@mstdn.party @AmpBenzScientist
what for you as an American is "race" is called ethnic group ("folkgrupp") in Sweden
@otso I dont know swedish, but it seems your mistranslating...
Race and "Ethnic Group" means different things in English. So its not possible that race in English translates to folkgrupp in Swedish which somehow translates back to English as a totally different phrase "ethnic group".
Either folkgrupp is the Swedish word for race, or its the Swedish word for "ethnic group", it cant be both.
ethnic group instead of race of course
@otso again, in english those terms mean totally different things... so you cant have a swedish word that somehow translates to both.
race is simply "ras" in Swedish but that word is used only by racists
@otso Ok, well i cant speak to the subtleties of swedish.. but if that word is truely a translation for race thent he difference is that you wrongly assume someone is racist simply for talking about a thing that happens exist regardless of context... that is troubling indeed, but you do you.
I am saying that the word race (in Swedish "ras") is not used for instance in medicine, they talk about "folkgrupper" aka ethnic groups.
That seems very dangerous.. Races are at risk for certain diseases and should be considered... ethnic groups are totally different thing and have their own risks. Ignoring either puts your patient at risk by denying that reality.
@otso Ethnic groups are shared cultures that are localized by a region.. A white person can belong to the Caribbean ethnic group, despite not being of the same race as Caribbeans.
If there is a cultural practice that causes diseases, then you need to be aware of that and we are talking about ethnic groups.
If a race makes you genetically at risk for a certain disease this has nothing to do with ethnic groups and one must talk in terms of race instead.
@otso I dont see how thats physically possible... If you ignore the existence of races then you cant treat people who have disease that is informed by their race. Ethnicity is something different and while you should consider that too, it doesnt solve the problem that you cant ignore race.
@otso By the way thanks for having a respectful conversation about a difficult subject. Much respect, good convo.
@otso @whosthatguurrrl@mstdn.party @freemo Perhaps the perceived hostility being felt has something to do with Old Glory and colors not running.
Despite leadership in the USA for the past several decades, Americans are still patriotic.
For a moment I thought you were mocking our manufacturing. Bearings are precision parts with races.
the word "race" dehumanises people, renders them to animals.
I dont see how, race is a special word we use just for humans. We explicitly have different terms to refer to the same property in animals, specifically so it isnt dehumanizing.
Thats like saying its dehumanizing to say humans have blood because animals have blood.. there are many universal and objective things animals share with humans, the existence of race just happens to be one of them.
@whosthatguurrrl@mstdn.party @AmpBenzScientist
We arent talking about definitions we are talking about a physical property... If there is an apple on the table no matter if you have a word for it or not an apple is still there.
What definition you give race is irrelevant. The fact remains the idea of race as I am refering to it exists, even if you use race to mean something else.
@whosthatguurrrl@mstdn.party @AmpBenzScientist
> what's the point?
the category "race" doesn't exist here, this is not USA.