@freemo

@trinsec

You've got to understand that for a new user to see your instance listed multiple times for reasons like federating with gab/kiwifarms, and that the instance you're on has privacy / CoC breaking protocols is not confidence instilling. We're on 126 block lists, which again, to a new user, seems a lot.

@War_Kittens

Its also a bit of a lie.. first off the features we have are **not** in any way privacy or CoC breatking. Whoever told you that doesnt understand our features or was lying.

Second, Gab doesnt exist anymore and hasnt for some time, we cant federate with them. The only part that is true is that people can see post from kiwifarms, and we do this at the request of our LGBTQ community and for their safety. This is, in fact, one reason we are so popular throughout the fediverse, there was a large exodus of LGBTQ to our server in the early days specifically because of our rules to allow federation to other instances. They used this to be able to monitor violent accounts on those servers and use that to warn people in their community when their life is at risk, the same reason we added subscriptions.

Where are you getting the figure of us being on 126 block lists? I am not saying its inaccurate but I'd like to fact check that.

Regardless you have to understand of the block lists we are on the vast majority are servers with single or double digit counts of users, moreover those are servers that have **massive** and even abuse blocking practices, they often block servers for very silly reasons and being on any of those servers and you wont see the vast majority of the fediverse, even good actors.

@trinsec

@War_Kittens

Actually I take that back... ALL of it was a lie,... both kiwifarms AND Gab dont exist and cant be federated with... So at this point whoever told you what you just said is a complete lie, or at least, the block lists you keep seeing are lying.. we cant federate with something that doesnt exist.

@trinsec

@freemo @trinsec Thanks for the handholding. I try my best, even with the dumb posting I do, to avoid that kind of mess. It would be fantastic to understand how that got all started. Like what is up with their mod teams.

This entire thing started due to a friend being on a server who blocks qoto. There's no big white paper really, about this stuff. I've read all your org docs when I joined, but this is beyond that.

@War_Kittens
Honestly, there's only a few suggestions I can make when you want to connect with your buddies on a server that blocks us:

- You move to a server that can connect with them.
- They move to another server that can connect with us.

Additionally, you or them can create a 2nd account.

That's totally up to you all, and that's something you'll have to discuss among yourselves. But the reasons given for the blocking is ancient, and some detest us because _we_ don't block the same stuff like they do. You can't please everyone I guess.

@freemo

@trinsec

I have to say im a bit disgusted (not with you) that us taking a hard stance on protecting our members of the LGBTQ community from violence has been twisted and distorted, and blatantly lied about in an attempt to make us look bad.

When the vast majority of the fediverse were silencing the LGBTQ and they were migrating to us int he thousands I knew what we were doing was right... when those servers who lost their user base tried to distort and lie about the situation, evne as a minority, it hurt, but I did what was right anyway.

To actually see people years later buying those same lies when they are so easily debunked... that causes me to loose hope for humanity. You made no attempt to ask us about the situation or learn what the other side of the story was, talk about the features, understand why they arent privacy violating at all (they do not give you access to toots people dont give permission for you to see)... People need to do better, they need to fact check this nonsense rather than just get spoon fed and then repeat the disinformation again and repeat the nasty cycle.

@War_Kittens