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Thats like saying "fewer vaccines means fewer vaccine death", while technically true its also very poor logic. Sadly no, banning guns generally means more homicides overall.

Also who said anything about Canada. Sadly the body of the american data on this clearly disagrees with the assesment.

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I did not know that about banning guns = more homicide. What country or countries were studied for that result? Thanks!

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Quite a few I've read about and even did studies on myself.

You can find 4 images showing this across 4 countries as an example here: qoto.org/@freemo/1037666922745

I can share many more examples if you'd like.. in fact the vast majority, with just a few exceptions of countries which banned guns show pretty much the same pattern.

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@freemo @protecttruth
Thank you sir! That's really interesting; I'll look at the numbers here in a minute. πŸ™

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Wow, that's really interesting. I would not have suspected that. I suppose the reason we never hear about the real story is government's tendency to want to avoid embarrassment.

I'm pretty sure I've seen at least one actual war started (or continued) because of the embarrassment reaction. People are hard to figure. πŸ˜‰

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Its probably less about embarassment and more about wanting to appeal to the masses.

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@AndyLowry @protecttruth Wow I saw those charts it seems like banning guns gives criminals an unfair advantage against law abiding citizens hence more criminals using guns and more guns violence in general. Is that a fair assessment @freemo?

@voidabyss @AndyLowry @protecttruth @freemo the graph's do not show banning guns, does not represent violence involving guns, and do not mention who the perpetrator and victim are

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It does indeed show the banning of broad classes of guns (handgubs). So id say its more than close enough

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If you spend much time amongst firearms enthusiasts, you'll hear that as one rationale for wanting to carry a gun. (Used to do competition shooting with revolvers and 1911 .45's as a hobby.) I don't know what the numbers say on that; never tried to track down any data on it.

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