There's something so incredibly gaslighty about having people defend actions that prolong the pandemic by saying they want the pandemic to be over.
I DO TOO, DUDE. A lot more than you do, in fact, because I'm willing to maintain drastically changed behaviour for years to achieve that.
The sides are not "I love pandemics" vs "I don't like pandemics". They're "I want to pretend the pandemic is over while ensuring it never ends" vs "I want it to ACTUALLY end."
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@thesunshinesushi I agree the pandemic isnt over.. but sadly the idea that you can eliminate the disease by observing certain practices just isnt reality either. No amount of mask wearing or washing hands will ever make COVID go away, the same way thatthe Flu and the common Cold will never go away.
Best you can do is wear hazmat gear for years on end till it finally dwindles to insignificant levels and then when you finally take off the hazmat COVID will spread like wildfire again.
The nature of how vaccines on COVID work means we will **never** eliminate it like we did small pox. It is here to stay, forever. Eliminating it isnt an option so only thing left to decide is how we want to respond to the fact that it is here for the long run.
Sincerely yours, a COVID research scientist.
@freemo I would love to see what you've published or put your name on as a covid researcher
@a_cup_of_sugar Sure thing, you can just search my name, but when im back home I can link you directly.
I am the lead over at Scentech right now. We analyze VoCs in COVID patients and I am the one who made it possible to classify covid from only a breath sample. Prior to that I worked with the DoD and invented an algorithm pre-COVID used to modeling disease proliferation.
@freemo you're a machine learning expert by all search results. I don't see anything about you being a covid research scientist
@a_cup_of_sugar I literally run a COVID research lab right now at Scentech and just told you two examples, my discovery of a system able to detect COVID from VoC as breath and the discovery of an algorithm used in disease proliferation.
@freemo You said to search you up, so I did. Your profile at your company does not mention anything about covid, and your Google Scholar page also has nothing about covid.
You're "search my name" approach is working against you.
@a_cup_of_sugar Did you happen to notice the fact that my title at the company is head of all STEM operations (CIO) and internal operations (EVP) and that the **only** thing the company does is COVID research right now (though in the past we were working on cancer too)?
Like I said when I get home I am more than happy to link you to some COVID specific stuff.
More importantly you seem very strangly antagonistic... are you this confrontational everytime you find out someone is in the research field?
@freemo I'm antagonistic against anyone who shouts down covid protections, like you did. I've never seen any other covid research scientists (ones who have actual covid research under their name) do this.
@a_cup_of_sugar Please quote the part where I "shout down covid protections", now your behavior sounds even more strange.
@a_cup_of_sugar And what phrase in there do you think represents "shouting down covid protections"... You mean the part where I explicitly state such protections can dwindle the disease down to insignificant levels?
Are you seriously going to say that you never heard a scientist claim COVID isnt going away? Clearly you are very disconnected from the scientific community since the idea that COVID is here to stay is the overwhelming majority opinion in my expiernce.
@freemo "You mean the part where I explicitly state such protections can dwindle the disease down to insignificant levels? " Which you undermined in the very next sentence.
"Clearly you are very disconnected from the scientific community since the idea that COVID is here to stay is the overwhelming majority opinion in my expiernce."
I literally never said otherwise.
@a_cup_of_sugar "undermined"... scientists arent here to make biased assertions.. things are nuanced and not as black and white as people want them to be... I made it clear that protections will reduce the virus, I also made it clear that the virus wont be eliminated and will not go away and resurge should we stop using those protections....
These are facts, protections reduce covid and never eliminate them, period...So your telling me you dont disagree with what I said yet are still arguing with me.
@freemo I read-through the conversation, you're clearly being trolled by that individual. (Just a heads-up)
I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. But you may be right, the level of absurdity is a bit over the top.
Fair.. I guess its somewhat comforting knowing its just someone trying to troll as opposed to someone who legitimately would just spew toxicity simply because someone said "masks work but they wont fix the problem alone", more or less.
Some people have hard time with nuanced science conversations, others are just trolls.
For me, the main take away is the cool technology that you're working on to detect #COVID in the breath, it really sparked my curiosity to understand the science behind that technology.
@freemo
Questioning your credentials while it's easy to fact check them plus the constant arguing on things you didn't said, its all red flags.
The main objective of a troll is to waste the target valuable time, it's sort of denial of service.
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