Just a reminder, the Democrats, who have largely exclusively pushed for gun laws, have given us the following mess:

Guns must cause ear damage -- devices which lower the sound to just below the threshold of causing ear damage are illegal.

Guns with barrels less than 16" must be designed in a way that they are extra hard to aim, making it a much higher risk that you will shoot someone accidentally... Only guns longer than 16" can be easy to aim.

Yet somehow people are baffled when I say the democrats have largely done more harm to the topic of gun control than good... every time they propose or pass a law it is complete nonsensical, largely because they dont even bother to under the very thing they want to legislate.

@freemo that's what it means to be a democrat.
Uninformed and aggressive about it.

@Pantangelini same for republicans.. the only difference between the two is which topics they choose to be uninformed and aggressive about.

@freemo what topic are democrats informed about?

I can't think of one.

@Pantangelini

Neither the republicans or democrats are particularly informed about too much sadly... I mean most people just arent that bright.

@freemo hahaha.

Just take the L dude.

Why is it so hard to accept there are no topics that democrats are actually informed on.

They have no Thomas Massie types.

They are an uninformed mob.

Accepting this is not an endorsement of the gop, its just accepting reality.

@Pantangelini

You a little off or something? At no point did I say democrats were informed on anything, I said the opposite, that, like the republicans, they are rarely informed. In fact that was what the whole point of the original post.

You are literally arguing against something no one disagreed with you on...

@freemo
I didn't bring up republicans.
And it's not remotely like the republicans.
Some of them are informed on 2a.
And many are informed on things like abortion, taxes, etc.

You stated.
"same for republicans.. the only difference between the two is which topics they choose to be uninformed and aggressive about."

Which suggests an idea that dems are uninformed on some things, gop on others.
Or that it's a equal and opposite situation.
Which it isn't.

Hope that clears it up.

@Pantangelini

Ok.... which has nothing to do with what you continued to argue a m,oment ago, which was that the democrats were uninformed. stated this several times times... weird, wonder why I wasnt able to read your mind...

So what you meant when you kept saying "Why is it so hard to accept there are no topics that democrats are actually informed on." was actually "Hey im offended you pointed out that republicans are idiots cause im one of them!", gotcha!

I dont really care if your a republican or democrat, but at least say what you mean, not something completely unrelated then act surprised you confused people.

@freemo I'm not a republican.

I stated being uninformed is being a democrat.

You claim that both are uninformed.

Except republican are informed on most topics.

They aren't aggressive either, typically spineless.

Perhaps you disagree with their religious lean, I often do myself.

Not that hard.

Ever think maybe you aren't as smart as you think.

@Pantangelini

Yes its obvious that is what you are arguing **now**.. and no, sadly that doesnt seem in line with reality.

There are topics each group are horribly misinformed on (Democrats: guns, economics, etc.. Republicans: climate change, STEM, etc) then there are topics which, at best they arent complete morons but are far from well-informed experts (Democrats: climate change, Republicans: guns).

As for aggression, democrats seem to be more rioty and aggressive as groups, republicans are more the type to be violent as individuals(such as the guy who mowed through a crowd).

No I have no issue with their religious lean, I mostly respect it as long as it doesnt cause them to be biggoted.

@freemo hahaha, according to democrats we are all already dead due to climate change.
Ohh STEM, nice. Democrats are more informed about stem but don't understand gender at all.

Hilarious.
Seriously guy.

Btw
Do you mean the black nationalist democrat who mowed through that parade?

@Pantangelini Actually most models historically that predicted climate change has been remarkably accurate (see attached image).

I think you mean they dont understand **sex**? Seems Sex is something they sometimes struggle with, whereas linguistic gender is something republicans seem to get really confused about (often not even understanding the difference between linguistic gender and sex).

@freemo gender is the bell curve of stereotypes of biological sex.
Let's not honestly go down that road where you try to argue that people who call themselves catself or people who think kids should have their genitalia mutilated because of this misunderstanding aren't the ones who are confused

@Pantangelini

> gender is the bell curve of stereotypes of biological sex.

That is biological gender, not linguistic gender. The fact that even after I pointed out we were talking about linguistic gender you immediately tried to define it like biological gender shows you are uninformed about the topic.

BTW linguistic gender existed before the concept of biological gender.

As to whether they use linguistic gender in a way I like is another matter. I am fine with someone having a different linguistic gender than their biological sex, that has been the norm in languages for a very long time. Though I am not a fan of the "there are 52 genders" crowd.. while there are languages that have many genders, it is not something that is normal in english and not something I see being particularly useful.

@freemo
Linguistic gender....
So the "52 gender crowd" which is all democrats and the democrats, who call Latinos Latinx, are less confused about linguistic gender...

Listen, I've worked with rappers and death metal artists and been to burning man a few times.

If you wanna talk about nonsense I'll switch over to discussing the #flatmoontheory

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@Pantangelini

> So the "52 gender crowd" which is all democrats and the democrats, who call Latinos Latinx, are less confused about linguistic gender...

Absolutely yes.. Because they dont pretend these 52 genders have always been around. They will admit quite readily they are a new invention, but is perfectly in line with the use of genders in a few other languages (there are 13 languages today that I know of with more than 2 genders)... They also recognize languages can change, and while I dont personally like this change, and it isnt part of "standard" english yet.. yes, it is perfectly within the use of linguistic gender based on its usage around the world. Yup, it is far more informed about how linguistic gender works than people who dont even know such a thing exists and instead pretend it is somehow the same thing as biological gender, which it is not.

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@freemo
You know they are at infinite genders.

52 was like 2021 # of genders

And no, they won't admit it's made up.

Show me a video admitting this nonsense is made up.

What an awful rabbit hole of stupid this is becoming

@Pantangelini I dont keep archives of videos of people claiming it isnt made up..I do remember just recently seeing someone on the fediverse saying exactly that, that it was made up and also point out so was everything else in language... which is true.

@Pantangelini

And to be clear, remember, as I pointed out the democrats arent **informed** about linguistic gender, neither them nor the republicans are informed about anything... its just one of the things they are kinda neutral on and have a better understanding about that republicans.

@freemo language is made up to transmit ideas, not yo purposefully create confusion and division, which is what is happening with all this gender nonsense

@Pantangelini when we talk about the 52 gender crowd on that we agree.

Thankfully there are some more moderate people who see gender as generally a binary spectrum (with a non-binary middle perhaps) rather than 52 genders, but at least recognize that ones linguistic gender does not need to correlate to their sex and that biological gender is a different concept... for those more moderate democrats they are right, compared to the complete ignorance of the republicans on that topic.

@freemo
What america (and the world in many ways)is facing right now.

Is that well meaning people perhaps like you, can't see through your indoctrination enough to realize the the democrats and their counterparts across the globe. Have gone off the reservation into some brave new world 1984 shit.

You are legit arguing about democrats not being confused aboit gender because they are the ones changing language regarding gender for no discernable reason into completely meaningless nonsense.

@Pantangelini

No I pointed out them and the repulicans are pretty idiotic about everything, and yes as I said their 52 genders thing is kinda silly cause its pointless as you state... but it still represents a better understanding of linguistic gender thant he republicans who are under some delusion it is identical to biological gender.

@freemo at this point I don't think you talk to republicans.

Or maybe you don't listen to them because you've been programmed to dismiss them are idiots.

Hope you can take that as criticism intended fir a positive outcome.

@Pantangelini

Its the exact same sort of criticism I get from democrats... but yea, I take no offense to it. But the predictable sort of responses that reflect similar pattern from democrats who are similarly "shocked" and argue much as you do in the opposite has only served to reinforce my stance.

For the record I grew up in a almost exclusively republican family. I have had far more exposure to republicans than democrats in that sense.

@freemo well, I grew up surrounded by democrats and recently fled philly due to the constant threat level maintained after 4 years of fear porn nonsense regarding orange man bad. The blind hatred became too much.
Having someone tell me that changing the word race, would make racism end left me wondering how dumb people really were. So this linguistic gender stuff makes me smh.

I'm a lifelong voter for aloysius Snuffleupagus.

@Pantangelini Ahh a fellow philly native born.. I am in philly right now and was here when the mostly-democrat lead riots were going down... So i can see where you get the violent comments from, and it isnt wrong.

While we might not agree about republicans we do generally agree about the intolerable nature of many democrats.

@freemo perhaps our difference is that my view sees promise in a fractured gop.

There are many folks who are now viewed as Republicans, like myself, ill accept, who are finding themselves in what is rising from the toppling of the corporate GOP.

we can all only hope the same happens to the DNC at the hands of Bobby K JR.

My former friends are the mindless fools who threw that parade for biden in philly so I have my doubts.
They don't get any of it.
At all.

@Pantangelini

While I dont expect you to beleive me, I think the difference may be something you never expected.

I've mentioned a few times on my feed that my family has a personal relationship with both Biden and Trump, both of whom have eaten dinner at and spent time at my parent's home. Seeing how extremely brain dead Trump was, and seeing the GOP ultimately vote and swoon around him, was a pretty damning moment in my eyes. At least from afar you can have some delusion of him being a mastermind in disguise. Likewise Biden was pretty intolerable too.

@Pantangelini

As I said, I dont expect it to. It is intended to explain my POV, not to convince you of yours.

@freemo so your pov is that of a person from a rich & well connected family (republicans from philly even) when Trump came for dinner with them you thought he was brain dead based on nothing in particular
So all republicans are stupid cause their parents didn't have trump over for dinner
But you also thought joe biden was stupid when he came to visit your parent for dinner
...
So you are a rich kid from a rich well connected family. Which is very important for me to consider for some reason.

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@Pantangelini

Sort a, few corrections:

so your pov is that of a person from a rich & well connected family (republicans from philly even)

I grew up in poverty, my mom married rich. I had long since moved out at this point. So while my step-dad was rich and had these connections I myself was not raised and exposed to it as a rich person.

when Trump came for dinner with them you thought he was brain dead based on nothing in particular

No it was based on very specific things he said and did, not nothing in particular.

So all republicans are stupid cause their parents didn’t have trump over for dinner

No they are stupid because he clearly demonstrates he is an idiot to everyone, you dont need to have him over for dinner. Me having met him personally just makes it easier to rule out some of the conspiracy theories around him just pretending to be dumb but in secret and in private he is some sort of genius. That said you dont need him over to see that, even that should be obvious to most.

But you also thought joe biden was stupid when he came to visit your parent for dinner

In Joe’s case it was less about stupidity and more about senility and immorality…

So you are a rich kid from a rich well connected family. Which is very important for me to consider for some reason.

Again sorta… grew up in poverty, etc. Me being rich or well connected is irrelevant, what is relevant is that I had a more intimate insight into these people which may give me stronger opinions since I cant fabricate some illusion than their idiocy and immorality is all some act, as some do.

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