> we won't do black friday sales because we don't care to subject our employees to that and we care more about our existing customers anyway (supernote)

@icedquinn Sounds like their "existing" customers wont exist for much longer because they are about to buy all the junk they need for the next year at half price somewhere else :)

@freemo time will tell i suppose. i went with rM over Kindle, but i probably would have gone with supernote over rM but i didn't know they existed until too late.

factorio and rimworld in the software world have shown its probably better to support a product and never go on sale, and they certainly aimed for that with their build choices (self healing screen guards pre-installed, durable nibs instead of designed to fail to put you on a vig of buying replacements)

@icedquinn I just use full fledges android devices with e-ink displays.. has almost as good battery life, and givesme all the advantages of android apps.

@freemo i have a digitizing android tablet (well, two) that are rarely used. the UI is just bullshit on android and ios.

t. newton owner

@icedquinn If you want a digitizer on Android you need to go with BOOX... they specially designed their digitizer not to have the same issues.

@freemo boox is a gpl violator--will never buy

@icedquinn Are they now? I wasnt aware... good reason.

@freemo rM is mostly closed source but there's a "gpl compliance" tab that gives you the root ssh password if you want to turn it on, very easy no shenanigans required to enable it. gold standard behavior.

boox basically said we're chinese we don't care about copyleft violations.

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the digitizer works fine on the samsungs. the problem is that android and ios have stupid UX that is designed around fat fingering on a consumption device. its not designed for a pen.

the newton was unique in that they designed the whole system to be digital paper. there's no real "focus" mechanics like a mouse and keeb interface where you select a field to type in. the forms *look* like paper forms, you just *write* on a text field and it does recognition.

sadly none of the epaper tablets meet the newton's design, although the specialized ones are closer i guess.

@icedquinn wait remarkable is a rootable linux device? .... oh you do know how to sweet talk me.. tell me more, I might buy!

@freemo they are but they are digital paper simulators. you really have to want that kind of thing or you won't enjoy them.

plenty of returns are because people exactly wanted an iPad instead