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Interesting fact of the day, in certain places in Japan Tattoos are illegal, or more accurately, it is illegal to go to those places if you have any tattoos. These include some public beaches, waterparks, and hot springs.
To me it is a huge personal violation to outlaw where a person can go based solely on what they put on their own body.
@freemo
It's a cultural thing, at some point only yakuza members were inking, maybe because of this illegality stuff, maybe that's why it became illegal
@AncientGood yea I understaand the why/// cultural doesnt get a pass from me though
Why would you assume its an "american culture".. when america isnt even my dominate culture?
Moreover, I really dont care what culture an idea comes from. So long as it is objectively argued for as right or wrong I really couldnt care less which culture the idea originates from. Taking away someones rights due to what they do with their own body is **objectively** wrong.. culture wont get you a pass on that.
Oh I'm with you. I think there's an objective morality too. I'll take ideas from any culture if my faculty of reason leads me to the conclusion that it's right or good. But there's perspective to be had.
I'm just explaining to you why the Japanese don't give a fuck what you think about their rules. They like their rules. They have good reasons for them that are contextual.
It's like, if I go to Thailand, I'm also an individualist. I don't believe in monarchy, or that any human being is above criticism. But I won't mention their king, I won't criticize him or their rules about speech concerning him, mostly out of respect. It's their society, their country, I can disagree but it's not my place to tell them how to be. Feeling like you ought to tell people how to be is also an American thing, and consequently a broader western thing.
@AncientGood
@mistermonster @AncientGood @freemo I do wonder if the intention behind such rules was more utilitarian than punitive. If the broad social understanding was that tatooed people were criminals or dangerous then the average person would be very uncomfortable being near them in a hot spring or similar location and might avoid those areas as a result. Whether intentional or not, if your tatoos are intimidating people then it could be viewed as an infringement on their right to peace of mind when in a public space.
Also, you're from Philly right? You're american. You might not think it's your dominant culture, but it's like a fish in water. You internalized your early nurture, you're more american than you'd like to believe. Culture is like language (and in fact is language), you can learn another language, understand it, intimately know the nuance, even adopt it as your primary language, but your neurology is already impacted from learning it as a child, it's a part of you now, and no matter what you do, clues to it will leak out in your behavior.
@AncientGood
That's an american culture thing too. It's hard figuring out what about your values come from your culture. To an american, being yourself is the top priority. To a Japanese, being Japanese is the top priority. The fact that it doesn't get a pass from you is cultural, and Japanese people care more about their culture than they do being sensitive to other cultures. They don't care I'd you don't like their rules.
@AncientGood