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Well Israel murdered 5000 peoplesince oct 7, 400 int he last 24 hours. Of those murdered 40% were children.
Its like every time Hamas goes terrorist the Israelis need to to out-terrorist them and then they get surprised when things dont get better....
@freemo We can choose between quick and self-proclaimed Hamas terrorism, or long-term, hypocritical Israelian one. :-/
I'm not an expert, but my 2cents are that without an external arbitration committee, this dispute will never be solved.
@mzan oh it will be resolved.. there just wont be any palestinians left alive on the other end of that "resolution"
I think the people want a resolution for sure.. .the govt doesnt want hamas to go away, they have been their biggest ally, hamas has been the reason they were able to justify taking so much land.
@freemo @mzan You think the state of #Israel is keeping #Hamas around to get more land? I think that they’ve either done it out of fear for what the West might say if used more aggressive tactics, or possibly to manipulate their citizens into supporting them more and thinking that they need them more than they do. The #USA does the latter all the time.
Dude you dont need **more aggressive** tactics to get rid of Hamas, you need **less aggressive** ones... How do you think killing mostly civilians will ever get rid of hamas short of completely killing off the whole population (which is the land ownership jackpot).
Thats exactly why its so obvious they intentionally keep the hamas around... they have put **way** more effort and death in play than would have ever been neccesary. A proper attack would have ground units going in and eliminating the hamas directly, not blanket bombing neighboorhoods and cutting off electyrcity.
Plus going in and only targeting hamas means less civilians dead and thus **less** support for hamas in the first place.
A ground offensive can kill more people, it can kill less... it largely depends on how its executed... Since Israel used palestinian children as shields during similar encounters int he past I am sure they are scared that israel wouldnt go in and handle a ground offensive responsibly. I assume you saw the recording of where they were calling palestinians "animals" and how they were going to deprive them of water and electricity and all that.... Obviously they arent in the headspace to even know how to be less aggressive.
@freemo @mzan How could a ground assault kill more civilians? Let’s say that #Hamas is hiding in a building with 75 civilians as human shields, and there are two commanders among them. With the #IDF’s current approach, they’d just bomb the building and kill everyone. In a ground assault, however, not as many people would likely die unless the #IDF soldiers kill the rest intentionally ofc. Maybe that’s what you’re thinking they’ll do though.
Never seen 1 man hold 20 or 50 people at gunpoint at the same time before, so I’m not apt to think that a ground offensive would be more deadly than any air offensive.
@realcaseyrollins your reasoning can be correct if the building to reach is near the border with Israel. But, if the troups had to reach a palace in the center of Gaza, it can be a very long "journey".
"Within Gaza City, the population density is over 500 people per 100 square meters in many sections, according to data from the European Commission."
It is not credible that Isrelian soldiers will advance to the target, without self-defense. And self-defence in a city with this density, it is for sure a lot of civil deaths.
Its not like Israel makes an effort to avoid killing civilians either... they have often bombed such areas from afar when the risk to them was less immediate.
