@freemo These right wing bigots seem to often spiral. They misread the room, perform in a way that is hateful. React and get more bigoted which just generates more hate and you have positive feedback of the worst kind. Look at Glinners!

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@cyberspice That is a perfectly accurate description... except it applies to the left wingers as well as the right wingers. The moderate / centrist parts of the spectrum are the only place left you can find any semblance of sanity.

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People needed to stop _reacting_ and start _meaningful action_ . And no, that doesn't mean blindly/bluntly protesting, forming a mob, or even blacklisting something.

@freemo What the US considers central Europe sees as right wing as you probably see living in the Netherlands. To me either you are a bigot or you are not. There’s no “I’m only a bit bigoted”. I would be interested in which particular left wingers you are thinking of?

@cyberspice I doubt you personally know any of the liberals I know, so not sure how names would even help.

Who is right or left isnt relative to opinion, it is absolute. Though it is a overloaded term and that may not hold true under some (incorrect imo) definitions.

@freemo If its absolute then either the US doesn’t have a major left wing party or European countries don’t have right wing ones.For example looking at how the Tories (who I consider deplorably right wing) supported the population financially during lock down which was considered all a bit socialist in the US.

@cyberspice right the USA's left is far close to the center than most other lefts on most issues (not all) and our right is farther away from center.

@freemo I have seen Biden do anything that's actually left wing. The Dems only seem left in so much as they are left of GOP. Any country where people can go bankrupt due to the health isn't left wing.

@cyberspice NO?

Is being for abortion left or right"
Is taxing the wealth left or right?
Is wanted to restrict guns left or right?

inb4: Just because both the left and the right might support an idea in some part of the world it is still a left or right leaning ideal... Take gun control, int he uk both sides tend to favor keeping guns illegal. But just because the right is willing to accept a left policy doesnt make it any less leftist.

@freemo

What ARE you on

"Is taxing the wealth left or right?"

That is totally the left. Because socialism relies on using taxation to provide services to those who can't afford them. And that includes health care.

"just because the right is willing to accept a left policy doesnt make it any less leftist."

You have arse about tit. Because the right is willing to accept a left policy makes the right LESS RIGHT.

@cyberspice Yes it makes it left right... but still right.. thus the point

> I have seen Biden do anything that's actually left wing.

All of those things which you list as left are things biden has done (voted in line with)... Therefore your statement was incorrect, you have seen biden do things that are left leaning.

So I am pointing out your statement is a lie, he has done things you admit are left-wing decisions.

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