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Should we let someone die who is unwilling (but otherwise capable) of doing what is needed to stay alive?
@freemo it depends
@freemo on whether they can be helped, change their mind about it, and get better.
@mjambon and if they seem unwilling to hav etheir mind changed or make the effort to get better?
@freemo I think it should be up to you to decide when faced with such a situation, not the law. Personally, I don't have firm rules for deciding this, possibly because I was never faced with such a situation.
@mjambon Would that even be rescue, to force someone to do what you think is best for them when they explicitly dont want it?
@freemo it depends. Ask them later what they think.
@mjambon Good idea, before we do anything we should always check with the future first :)
@freemo all decisions are based on how we imagine the future. My previous message was about confronting a past prediction with an actual outcome: "I made you live even though you didn't want it because I thought you'd feel better later. How are you now?"
@mjambon Sounds like a bit of a cop out to be honest.
@freemo I'm not sure what you mean exactly by "cop out". Clearly, I don't want a hard rule to decide whether someone lives or die. Such a situation seems important and rare enough that it deserves serious pondering when it happens.
@freemo like most people, I'd probably spend more effort to rescue the people I know and love than strangers. It's unfortunate for those who are the most isolated.