@mcnado @freemo It did spread for a few years and took out the most susceptible.

Long term data would be nice even if it's blatantly falsified like the death data.

We can't have a control group because nearly everyone was exposed. We don't have a healthy non jabbed group because the government and the public persecuted these people.

Being in the latter group, it's difficult to show empathy as anything other than mockery. Problems quoting inaccurate data? Corruption dragged its fat sack of influence and manipulation over your profession. Medicine will have to regroup and reform to get back to some level of integrity. That's going to be a long fight.

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The death data wasnt falsified. It was misunderstood though by many.

> We can't have a control group because nearly everyone was exposed. We don't have a healthy non jabbed group because the government and the public persecuted these people.

ITs more complex than that. a person knows when they are sick, so you cant make a virus like this double blind even if you wanted to. When you add in the inability to control for the placebo effect, plus the huge amount of fear that went along with it, its a recipe for wildly inaccurate data even with the best of intentions.

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@freemo @mcnado The Death Data was falsified by some facilities due to the financial assistance offered to assist with the additional money spent on combating covid. It was fraud and elderly care facilities were able to get away with it. A family friend died from Alzheimer's and he was reported as having died from COVID around 2 months later. He was cremated. My family reported it but it fell on deaf ears.

About the data for Medicine, I've made Mathematical models for outbreaks. I'm not an expert at it but we would have to limit variables and environmental factors. Even then it would take about as many revisions as a TeX document to get some level of accuracy. Then again with so many limits on data, I couldn't consider it accurate.

With actual data it could prove useful. The long term effects of COVID are not known, the long term effects of the jabs are unknown and the combined effects of both are certainly unknown. Is it actually important? Nope. The data will be collected and processed anyway thanks to our benevolent government.

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@AmpBenzScientist While I dont doubt there were a few examples of someone engaging in inflated numbers to get aide as was pointed out overall when you consider all the effects that create inaccurate numbers overall the numbers were under reported not over

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