@georgetakei

Hahaha, if this is an hourly worker and he isnt paying overtime this is a completely valid response :) lol

@freemo @georgetakei Nah, it's valid no matter what kind of worker they are. The idea that we should be emotionally loyal to employers is patently absurd.

@scott_guertin

Salaried employees are expected to make a fix amount no matter how much they are paid. That is the bargain.

@georgetakei

@freemo @georgetakei That doesn't mean that they're obligated to have some sort of greater commitment to their job outside of their assigned duties.

Company loyalty is for suckers.

@scott_guertin

No one said anything about "greater commitment". Only that a salaried worker's job isnt a 9-5 job. They are expected to work longer hours when needed, sometimes do work after hours, and in exchange they get paid when they take off like vacations.

@georgetakei

@freemo @scott_guertin @georgetakei No, they are not. That's why we have something called "overtime pay". Because work in excess of agreed hours is something that is compensated separately.

@pies

Sakary employees do **not** get overtime pay, by definition a salary employee doesnt even have an hourly rate they have a yearly rate. Overtime is only an idea that applies to hourly employees.

@scott_guertin @georgetakei

@freemo @pies @scott_guertin @georgetakei It depends. When I was a NASA engineer on the GS pay scale, I was salaried, but I had to fill out a time card every pay period. Mostly to account for the different programs to which I got assigned, but I also got paid overtime for each hour over the standard 80 I was required to work (two week pay period). When I was a brewer I was an hourly employee, but I earned vacation time.​ When I was in the Army I had to burn vacation time mid-tour while being on duty for 50 fucking weekends. I was salaried, but effectively earning below the poverty line for the amount of hours I was "at work." Now I'm truly salaried and take as long of lunch breaks as I can get away winh and leave as early as possible to get my effective wage as high as possible.

@black6

First time I ever heard of any salaried employee getting overtime. How does that work considering a salaried employee doesnt have an hourly wage defined?

@scott_guertin @pies @georgetakei

@freemo @black6 @scott_guertin @georgetakei To be honest I've never heard of overtime pay for hourly employees. How does that work? Where does the overtime start? It's just more hours.

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@pies

By law, an by default, overtime is any time worked beyond 40 hours in a week. Overtime by law must be paid at 1.5x the base rate by default in most states.

There are of course exceptions on a per-contract or per-state basis. But thats the standard.

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