Would you tip 0% if a person was excessively negligent in providing you a service where tipping is the norm?

@freemo I may be too Dutch to tip at all, ever. I dunno.

Back in Berlin we tipped 1 euro cent because of the terrible service and food we received.

In Eastern Europe I've seen bars and restaurants charging a 10% service fee, which usually is not allowed by law, and is a tip by another name.

@ligthert @freemo if it's for food service and they did a good job, tip. If it's delivery at least toss a couple of bucks on it, only a very bad delivery should have no tip. People wear and tear their cars, it takes an exorbitant amount of time with traffic, parking and waiting for orders, and gas is expensive. Delivery work sucks. Tip your delivery drivers, especially if they go above and beyond.

@rchrd @freemo The deliverers here usually drive company branded ebikes, branded cars, if they aren't using rental bikes. But this is something for "big" city for Dutch standards. So I don't think their costs for wear and tear applies here.

@ligthert @freemo In the US, delivery is mostly done by Uber eats and Doordash. People use their own cars. In cities like LA it's really hard to make a profit after time, depreciation, parking, and gas. The only type of delivery transportation that's really profitable is motorcycles/scooters and maybe e-bikes. And delivery on those is hard due to limited radius and capacity, no large orders. The tips really make or break it. Especially since recently doordash has changed their structure.

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USA tipping and Dutch tipping arent really comparable. In the netherlands they are paid a fair wage. Obviously tipping helps, but they are paid a living wage, tipping is what it should be for, extra as a thank you for excellent service. It isnt needed to ensure they get fair pay.

That said, if you can afford it it is certainly nice to be generous with people.

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