@freemo
Ketone test strips for urine can be useful, but don't distinguish between ketosis and ketoacidosis.

@brouhaha

> [You likely know all this better than I do. I'm not trying to mansplain it to you, but explaining for the benefit of other readers.]

I am not upset with you, but if i were to get upset I'd be far more likely to be upset of the use of the sexist term "mansplain" than I would from the actual desire to explain. That said, your good :)

> Did you urinate more than usual?

Nope, less than usual in fact. I think all day I peed once, maybe twice at most.

> If it's not water loss from sweating

I actually was quite cold all day, just turned the heat on a moment ago.. if there was any sweat it certainly wasnt noticable.

> the main way you lose body weight is by fat broken down into ketones (lipolysis, ketosis)

Actually this part is partly true (there is glycogenesis and glycolysis cycles too). But yea the bulk of fat winds up as ketones for energy.

> excreted by urination.

This is the part where your mostly wrong. ketones, once broken down for energy, result in the byproducts that are mostly water and carbon dioxide. While you are correct that the part you break down into water is exreted by your kidneys (or sweat) you are incorrect in your assertion that this is the route the majority of your weight is lost.

When breaking down ketones or sugar the resulting water is only 16% of the weight loss by mass. 84% of your weight loss is actually expelled in the form of CO2. When you loose weight you literally loose the overwhelming amount of your weight through your lungs.

> The other alternative is muscle tissue being broken down (ketoacidosis), which is very bad, but shouldn't normally happen.

While ketoacidosis is bad it is **not** the normal route a healthy person undergoes to convert protein into energy. Ketoacidosis is an unhealthy state, usually unique to diabetics, where you have both high glucose, and high ketone count leading to Ph imbalance and potentially death.

Typically proteins (dietary and muscle) are converted through protein metabolism, which starts with protein catabolism. Derriving energy from protein is actually quite normal if you consume more protein than your body needs.

@brouhaha There are three effective at home ways to detect ketosis. None of them as far as I know would by themselves find ketoacidosis, but there are ways that you can be fairly certain of it.

First off the ways to test for ketone bodies in your system:

1) urine strips... these are by far the least accurate and worst way to do it. They are wildly effected by hydration and thus are wildly inaccurate

2) breath.. this approach is non invasive and costs nothing per-test once you have the disease. It is more accurate than urine stips but still wildly inaccurate as the results are usually effected by how fast you breath into the tube. So they tend to vary as well.

3) blood meters, they look identical to blood glucose meters however they test for ketones instead of glucose. You can also get meters that test multiple things like ketones and glucose and uric acid and lipids and all sorts of stuff.

As for distinguishing ketoacidosis from ketosis, the best way to do that is just to use a dual blood test for ketones and blood sugar. If you have extremely high blood sugar AND high ketone body count at the same time it is strongly indicative of ketoacidosis.

@sergeant actually my deuce today was exceptionally light.

Yea i suspect its the testosterone finally turning on my metabolism for thr first time in decades.

I did note this morning i felt better than i ever remebered feeling in a very long time. First day i felt the adderall was out of my system too. So i suspect it was just the testosterone flipping sone switches.