The irony of this interaction is this is the first time I saw a democrat disagree with me and not throw a fit and get toxic and start blocking. It actually had me sitting here second guessing if there might be a few good ones.... then she blocked me... The irony is she would have done more to change my mind otherwise and threw away any positive effect she had in the end.
QT: https://qoto.org/@freemo/112910978727352492
π³π±
@freemo@qoto.org
@freemo Lol, what? I disagree with you all the time. And I've been a registered member of the party since January 7th 2021.
(Also, she makes good points)
Thats fair, in fact I had suspected when I wrote that you'd fall into the one exception I can actually think of outside of personal friends.
But I was mostly thinking in terms of strangers rather than people i had met and intracted with before discussing politics.
@freemo Yeah, also I think we've had that exact same argument you linked above before π
@louis ITs a fairly common argument when people come in with the two-party nonsense
bonifartius πΌπ
@freemo @louis believe me, it's a common argument here in germany with more than 5 parties having a substantial vote. if you vote for something else you are "throwing your vote away".
regarding people throwing a fit:
i think what happens is that people identify very strongly with certain parties that criticizing these parties is an attack at their ego. i believe that this happens more for progressive parties, as those often use emotional arguments (like "end of democracy"). at least much more often than conservatives.
So in germany what is a throw away vote, anyone who votes for something other than the 5 main ones? lol
@freemo @louis depending on who you ask, yes. it's essentially the same argument as in the US: if you vote for some small party which lands below 5% (which are excluded from the bundestag) you weaken the "good" big parties which aren't AfD so you strengthen AfD who are evil nazis who will end democracy.
always reminds me of the famous osho quote: "Government by the people, of the people, for the people... but the people are retarded."