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Arguing men shouldnt have a right to an opinion on abortion because they can only be the victim of abortion and never the executor is like arguing women shouldnt have an opinion on rape because they are typically the victim and not the executor.
We all started our lives as fetuses and would have been effected by abortion laws, and as such we all should have a right to an opinion on the matter.
@freemo Of course everyone has a right to their opinion on any subject.
But it does seem clear that while men are not unaffected, women *are* disproportionately affected and their voices should therefore hold more weight on the subject.
And the inverse holds true as well. Men's voices carry more weight when it comes to men's issues, such as the legality and ease of access to Viagra.
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@bonifartius @freemo One could argue that a lack of it does. Ultimately it just depends on when you think life starts and whether or not you're willing to use violence to enforce that belief.
@bonifartius @louis @freemo Abortion is never illegal for the wealthy. Abortion bans are class warfare.
I agree with this given the current situation where a person can just go get the procedure in some other state.
Though if it were a total ban, and even illegal to go out of your area to get one, then even the wealthy wouldnt be able to get an abortion. But thats not the case, so what we have right now what you are saying is certainly true, and a bit issue IMO.
@freemo @bonifartius @louis A wealthy woman would simply call her personal physician for the procedure or go to "visit the Blarneystone" in Ireland. The wealthy do what they want. Middle class and poor girls pay the price economically, socially, and physically.
You mean int he current system, in which case I agree. Obviously if it is blanket outlawed than those scenarios would still mean jail time, so in that scenario your point isnt valid, but with the current state it is entirely valid.
@freemo @Ponygirl @bonifartius Strong disagree. The rich can always offer enough of a bonus to override some doctor's fear of jail, especially if they're fresh off their residency and riddled with debt. The rich can even offer to buy them the best lawyer if they somehow do get caught. The incentives outweigh the risks. But only if you can afford it.
@freemo @bonifartius @louis I'm sure you'd agree there's a 2-tierd justice system. The weathy would likely $$$ their way out of prosecution. I don't see any changes or improvements in the near future.