"It's not a #nazi salute, he just got really excited and this was a socially awkward person's attempt at connecting with people."
Hey y'all, your friendly neighborhood socially awkward person here. Now this is not a new mantle mind you, I have been socially awkward my whole life to the point where I wrapped around the bend and found myself socially accepted within a band of other socially awkward folks (which is quite lovely mind you). So when I see people talking about #musk throwing his arm out in a Nazi #salute, I have many thoughts on this matter.
Things that are 100% in the realm of "OK yeah, I can see that as an example of how other socially awkward people might act"
- Making a weird noise that someone thought might be an ostrich gargling oatmeal and/or a Castrato singing "Ave Maria" in the key of rusty belt sander (I swear, the sound made sense in my head at the time)
- Slamming one's fist down excitedly and hitting a carton of orange juice which explodes in a 5 foot radius (that was me...I did that once...don't ask)
- Giggling anxiously while staring at one's feet (did this too many times to count)
- Speaking waaaay too fast or way too softly (still might do this...)
- Repeating what you want to say under your breath several times before actually speaking and then speaking way too fast or way too softly (OK...I've gotten better about this but still do it)
You know what's not socially awkward? Nazi salutes. Fuck your bargain basement excuses for bullshit Nazism.
#ElonMusk showed who he is and now it's our job to believe him.
Doc Freemo 
Ok so we are all going to agree now whenever we see this gesture it is never socially awkward and always a nazi salute, got it. Will do, so Harris is a Nazi too then right?
@freemo Here is the video that this screenshot is taken from. Just after the 4:30 mark, you'll find her moving her arm in a gesture. That gesture is *NOT* the Nazi salute. What Elon Musk did was a near-perfect mimic of Adolf Hitler's salute.
So no, this does not show that VP Harris is anything but a woman who uses her hands when she speaks.
https://www.c-span.org/program/road-to-the-white-house-2020/south-carolina-democratic-party-convention-senator-kamala-harris/528784 @monkeyninja
that is factually inaccurate. A Nazi salute involves a hand at your side immediately raised up to the air, which the motion HArris did by your own Admission. On the other hand Musk first puts his hand across his heart (which is NOT the motion for the nazi salute) before raising it.
Of the two Harris's motion was far more accurate to a Nazi salute than Musks.
To be clear I dont think either of these are intended to be Nazi salutes. But if we are going purely based ont he motions it is harris's that is far closer to a Nazi Salute than Musk's.
Don't beleive me, just pull up a video of literally any nazi salute from the actual Nazi army (I wont link such vile filth myself but you should have no problem finding it),.
@freemo @RegGuy You seem to be approaching this as if each thing Musk does should be taken at face value, rather than looking historically at who he is and what he supports. Because yeah, if I just came into this conversation and this was the first thing I ever heard about him, I too might say we were jumping the gun. But that's not the case is it? Musk wrote on 20 December 2024 "Only the AfD can save Germany." That post is still up. So it's really hard to give him any wiggle room and any grace when he posted support for the current incarnation of the Nazi party in Germany. His history is what makes this a Nazi salute, not his awkwardness. Just like Harris's history makes hers not. These two things are not the same, these two people are not the same.
To be clear I am **not** claiming tghat this man doesnt behave in some ways that may align with nazi ideals (such as xenophobia and supporting a racist like trump are nazi-like, to some degree.
I wouldnt even go so far as to say he isnt a racist, maybe he is, probably he is.
All I am saying is there is no doubt in my mind (or those who are experts in this) that what he did did not represent a Nazi salute and was not intended to resemble one. Any resemblance is by accident.
That much is clear, its not a Nazi salute, full stop. Nothing about that statement however suggests he isnt a nazi-like person, and by that i mean, willing to support racists and racist policy and fascism, cause clearly he does.
If people said "Musk is supporting a racist and a fascist" I would have been cheering you on going "hell yea he does".. the moment you get tot he absurdity of trying to claim he intentionally did a Nazi salute, thats when you totally loose me.
I dont think the liberals realize over exaggerating everything and turning into the most absurd exaggeration of itself is **not** doing anyone any favors, all its doing is discrediting you from an otherwise very real and important discussion.
