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Life hack: Don't like police, think they are #ACAB... easy solution. You can tresspass anyone, including police. Use a FOIA request, get the list of all police for your district, and issue a tresspass warning preemtively for all of them.
Now if they step foot on your property (without a warrant) it is a criminal and arrestable offense. Obviously they can still come on your land in an emergency without a warrant (exigent circumstances it is called). But if they try to violate your rights, you have a much stronger case to have them jailed.
@freemo Seems like this could be good knowledge for basic law and learning civilian rights.
Could you say more why you mention?
@freeschool Just a thought i had when watching cop videos where cops **very often** will knock on a door without a warrant and then refuse to leave the property and wedge their foot int he door to stop you from shutting it.
You cant obviously use force to get them out (wihout getting your ass killed)a nd i was wondering about what you could even do to assert your rights safely and legally. Then I realized a cop without a warrant can be tresspassed the same as anyone else. So as long as you formally tress pass them it is **criminal** for them to be on your property.
@freemo Yeah sounds wise as all job types might try it on in some way.
Often proving those in power are in the wrong after the fact is problematic so maybe filming them and yourself giving them the trespass 'order' *might* help... though suggesting to film others is maybe not the first things but something I'm trying to solve theoretically as usually wouldn't
but when officer's opinion of what happened are believed more than civilian's in court (again another tactic in them trying force their way in or being too nosey) it's hard to prove things and was thinking in the same way 'how to solve if they said this happened or put their foot in the door etc'.
How to solve that?
@freeschool the problem is a tresspass warning must be issued by a cop... when they are invading your home they are likely to likewise refuse to address the tresspass issue. However if you preemtively file a tresspass warning against them then they are already criminal the moment they step onto your property.
@freemo Wondering if one could hand officials / officers a piece of paper - like anti- trespass template made by us ready for any household ready to print or online that could be handed to them? #law #protection #civil #prevention #methods
Therefore they would be 'serve' the official to some degree since we individuals also have the power of law. This could be a good preventative / pre-empted thing to have ready printed or online site since it happens more and more... ?
Even to write in the blanks the the officers name or number
Thoughts from anyone welcome or those inside law...
@neil
@freeschool
Im not a law expert, the fine nuance is beyond me. Frankly im not sure what recourse you could take to tresspass an officer if other officers refuse to take your request. Let alone something you can do at the scene.
I am tempted to record a video and go to the police station and ask "If i give you an arbitrary list of names without any further details, would you be willing to official register a tresspass warning so they wont be allowed".
Then when i get them on recording saying yes (as this is fairly normal) id love to see them try to weasels out of it when they get a list of every person in their own precinct. Just the reaction alone would be priceless.
@neil