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Life hack: Don't like police, think they are #ACAB... easy solution. You can tresspass anyone, including police. Use a FOIA request, get the list of all police for your district, and issue a tresspass warning preemtively for all of them.
Now if they step foot on your property (without a warrant) it is a criminal and arrestable offense. Obviously they can still come on your land in an emergency without a warrant (exigent circumstances it is called). But if they try to violate your rights, you have a much stronger case to have them jailed.
@freemo Seems like this could be good knowledge for basic law and learning civilian rights.
Could you say more why you mention?
@freeschool Just a thought i had when watching cop videos where cops **very often** will knock on a door without a warrant and then refuse to leave the property and wedge their foot int he door to stop you from shutting it.
You cant obviously use force to get them out (wihout getting your ass killed)a nd i was wondering about what you could even do to assert your rights safely and legally. Then I realized a cop without a warrant can be tresspassed the same as anyone else. So as long as you formally tress pass them it is **criminal** for them to be on your property.
Can't you just arbitrarily trespass anyone at any time? You just need to explicitly say that someone is trespassing as I understand it.
Im sure there is some exception, but ive seen the tresspass process by watching a lot of lawyer videos that analyze police interactions (a fun past time of mine) and I think i have a decent understanding.
Simply saying someone is trespassed isnt enough. First they must tell you to leave, if you leave then you cant be id'ed or get the actual official tress pass warning. If the cops get there and they witness you being asked to leave you must be given the chance to leave, if you do they cant ID you or issue the tresspass warning, but should you come back at any time they will issue the tress pass warning, it is not criminal to come back though.
Once you have the tresspass warning then if yous tep ont he property again you go to jail and face criminal charges.
Also a cop can not trespass you, the owner must initiate it. A cop also can not solicit a trespass (that is request of the owner to trespass someone).
That said in some states you can preemtively trespass someone, other states you cant.
It still sounds like a citizen can trespass a cop on the fly though, no?
In theory sure... but the cop would have to be willing to actually issue himself a tresspass warning. HE probably wont in the heat of the moment.
@freemo @realcaseyrollins hehe "issue a warning to self" that would be true justice :) and a way to make 'systems' of people better processes since it can be occasionally conflicting if there is more than one law and one law has more priority than another other law (so "issuing to self" could be a way to flag that!)
Kinda nice for a complaints department or true just system to review this flags or flagged issues
(rather than in commercial systems use it to design by-passes or hide flagged problems even more somehow).
@freeschool
It hits home when it comes to the root of the problem really... Police clearly play by different rules and have different laws than the rest of us. Thats what happens when you have qualified immunity and prosecuting illegal activity is entirely at their discretion.
@realcaseyrollins