Don't train #AI - Train people INSTEAD!
@freeschool train AI to train people
@barefootstache Hehe I like that - made me chuckle...
"But" unfortunately no #AI doesn't work like that - it's the people managing the whole infrastructure "behind he screen" that lets them get to it first and make it a dirty process even before anything so we'll always be last in chain or playing catch up for real progress as they siphon all data for their own purposes and gather more free resources for their own purposes... unless you think people behind AI are the fun people and not cut-throat vulture-capitalist types...
We have enough knowledge.
Regardless of the validity of my above comment, even if AI "could" do better and even if it is... it's not needed to the extent humanity needs to be present for each other...
I feel that's your scientific / mathematical brain talking again (even though a fun reply, again too short) where "you could win the whole prize" with AI or "fail humanity totally" like any game show offer on TV.
People of the riskier kind might risk it... but ultimately belief in people with existing basics (which is a lot) is the long-term and earthly winner to make for better humans and processes WITHOUT adding risk and VC / Capitalists (or minimising it).
For what I understand it might not be barefootstache that is training the humans evidently by this comment - even if you were suggesting a mix. I think you are still not interested in doing it more 'manually' as a human and tinkering around with toys instead. My last message more personally to you suggested this and is not yet replied... Do try reply otherwise I accept pretty much my accusation is proved somewhat towards STEM being only for STEM and therefore all the other bad things that comes with it ( #Banks / # Gov /
#Politics #Law etc !).
Time to really do it mostly ourself, barefootstache ... you agree?
In the developer world there is a movement from IDE (integrated development environment, mainstream) to PDE (personal development environment) and lots of AI models permit this transition also.
There exist guides on how to setup an AI that is trained off the data you provide and can completely run offline.
Thus with such a setup, one is the architect and consumer at the same time.
And the benefit with AI is that one would save the time to compile all the information into a format that one values.
Some of the guides that I have seen, one can asked where this info is sourced from and it will tell you the exact files and lines.
Agree... but overally too much now all on top of each other... and as I see war based originall or eventually as it's not in our hands...
@barefootstache Yep agree, The overall caution still stand as something like "AI is bigger than us" or "Be careful of AI from the people around and those that supply it" but always I feel like these advancements will be true and somewhat people sucked into it - where there's always amazing short gains backed up by a ton of underlying shit and it's own separate development.
Just my elegant words on a whole industry basically aimed toward war with nice side package of benefits in other areas... but it's just my thing perhaps. I just can't shake it.
I'd just hope for a few good programmers with needing all of that... else settle for less (less energy, less computers, less...)
Agree... but overally too much now all on top of each other... and as I see war based originall or eventually as it's not for the most part in our hands...
AI is too much overall + stacking on top of other things invasively... AI as I see it a war-based / anti-human thing eventually (if not already...)
@barefootstache (updated spelling and grammar...)
It seems like a good enough end what you wrote: "AI is just a new flavour of cherry picked statistical models."
How simple and short I thought...
And then I realised maybe THIS is the "one more point" to wrap to up how that seems dangerous to say so simply when it's clearly not:
From your side I don't hear any of the dangers about it - maybe literally nothing (will have a look again) and then saying it's simply this (maybe you didn't mean that but if you do AI is certainly not simple or just computer related - probably more related to 'everything' more than not from energy or people's lives.
Perhaps I expect something more like I am saying, but not hearing much of anything is basically my confirmation you're more ok with it than not... or indifferent - which if true is almost more dangerous.
If you are not political at all with bad ways on people, planet etc as the ultimate politics in itself then something is deeply missing with you / others.
Sooo without over-triggering myself or focussing on you - it seems very typical of people in this sector not to care almost like a sort "I'll just use this tool it doesn't really matter",,, totally not caring - THIS seems a common thing in the Computer / STEM sector that I seek help with. 🆘
Though I might have you wrong and grouping way too many others and losing fans into the negative numbers - seriously if I bang on too much it's because I'm missing why people almost don't have this gene in them,.. they have the knowledge of who and how it works but don't see leanings and danger at all almost - all there are bewildered by the new light or shiny toy and treat at tool totally like it's without an previous effect.
Anyone indifferent (like the same people with it's just "money" and you can use it for 'good or bad' without seeing the enshitification of 'debt' before it) when it's clearly involved on all levels (politically / financially / etc) is a war on people more than 'saving them' so realising those people would never release anything that doesn't further their own causes first... well I guess that's the main point as well as all the other energy, data centers, hardware, water cooling etc considerations...
I can only say for now you or they are missing a gene or something (not even knocking you or them or whoever). You all are just missing it inside and it's "just a tool", "just money" etc to you and "why not use it" is a question even if answered wouldn't made a difference.
Home and away eventually AI is bad etc etc... but yeah gets some more programming done 
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I have more of a blanket and measured- it all stinks at whatever level approach - and you... probably a playing it safer not saying as much as I.
P.S I know you have been travelling so can leave this until later... I think we squeezed quite a bit already... so no worries and whenever...
Agree... but overally too much now all on top of each other... and as I see war based originall or eventually as it's not in our hands...
@freeschool
In the end, AI is just a new flavour of cherry picked statistical models.