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@freeschool i think you might be interested in reading "Economic Policy: Thoughts for Today and Tomorrow" by ludwig von mises.

mises.org/online-book/economic

in capitalism you can have people voluntarily cooperating and helping each other. granted, a few might not, but the absolute majority of people is happy to voluntarily cooperate.

in collectivism - which is the alternative to voluntary markets - you violently force people to "cooperate". which is the polar opposite of love and care.

of course, what doesn't work is a monopoly on violence which intermingled with big business. which is what we have in the west and it's fulfilling the fascism definition, imo.

nothing has shown this better than the mrna racket during the so called pandemic. a few pharma companies got very rich because the governments mandated these injections to freely move in society. i was prevented to go shopping for other things than food, toilet paper and medicine. if i'd have resisted too much, i would have been beaten or shot as last consequence and me being beaten or dead would have been "lawful".

this is a problem of people accepting that there is an organization which can force them to do things.

this clearly is not a problem of people producing things to sell them for a profit or of people providing services to others for a profit.

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@bonifartius A few good points and also lost some relativity naturally in larger text - in 2nd half mostly though still had good things to remember.

So if you have specifics then pick and choose else good general reading which I can assume we both know and have come across or compatible in accepting notions of.

Generally yes "you have to remember that, in economic policies, there are no miracles." and always going to need people to fit in, or allow for others in many many different ways. No one shot kill of problems or expectations for all follow or all to even understand.

But the basics are there for principles and in discussion, "why we're here?" type questions (for the next generation perhaps?) and battle logic from that.... now we have near-none of the that or just spending power.

My original point was also assuming we can do the heart stuff during capitalism, and can grow the heart to minimise needing Capitalism - so not saying stop it all (just to be a bit clearer)

I made some posts quoting what you said so feel free to say more specifically - the general rest I am getting around to myself through relativity though specifics helps speed things up if on point, but most of it we know and from power of discussing can understand more of *if* more healthier arenas (or admins) can exist to take this on more than mostly just the Tech side.

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