@cmclase Although I never argue with public policy, the mask thing has no physics. Covid evolved to skirt masks and go straight for the eyes. No physics, or evolutionary physics was done. The only studies were with uncovered coughs, and without a mask, everybody covers their coughs. With a mask, why bother? I have also found that the electrostatic fibers are instantly neutralized with moisture. All in all, by the millions, masks are useless. I think everybody wearing 'bono glasses' (wrap around) would be more effective. Anyway, I got covid 3 times, and always in very close situations, parties with people shouting and running around. I wish I had worn glasses....
@cmclase Fine, thanks for responding. I find that physics that is not done, is deliberately not done. Are you going to say the the epidemic in China would be 10 times worse without everyone wearing a mask?
@hasmis You are welcome - thank you for your interest!
I wouldn't try to quantify the reduction in risk, but yes, absolutely, mask mandates were shown to have worked. However bad things get in China, they would be/will be worse if people don't routinely wear masks in indoor public spaces. Those studies aren't physics though, they are epidemiology.
We have a bibliography of those studies here:
https://maskevidence.org/why-masks-matter
For the physics question, you might like this engineering take on mask standards - aerosol science is all about physics:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/gch2.202100052
We also wrote a plain-language explanation of how apparently coarse filters such as woven cotton can stop a tiny virus, here:
@cmclase I think we have to leave this to history. All the big epidemics were stopped by engineering and physics. We were wallowing in sh*t, for cholera and such. Now, we've been wallowing in sh*t for indoor air quality, and it has caught up with us.
The big mistake this time was that biologists were in control and loved their power trip. Any physics done on masks was done by biology-types. Again, we wait for history, and we are too much into the power games right now, to argue further. I'm taking a new vaccine every few months - that's biology in charge. :)
@hasmis I respect your wanting to close this, and I will be quiet after this, but the paper I sent you was work conducted by engineers. I was literally the only biology type 🤣 involved
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/gch2.202100052
And to say I agree with you. 19th century engineering-types cleaned the water and we in the 21st century can - and will, eventually - clean the air.
@hasmis
We may not know what proportion of covid enters through the eyes, but I don't think there are data to suggest it is a dominant route?
Plenty of physics on the filtration science side, though. We summarize the data for whole masks on humans here:
https://maskevidence.org/mask-types
I worry about wet and cold masks too. But there are data on extended use of N95s:
https://maskevidence.org/extended-use
And remember that certified level 1, 2 and 3 medical masks achieve excellent filtration without electrets (the electrostatic piece) 95 - 98%. (The problem with medical masks is the gaps at the edges.)